Dialog With A Geoengineering Insider

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By Dane Wigington
geoengineeringwatch.org
The conversation below involves a veteran engineer and architect of the climate engineering programs. This person was a part of geoengineering effort on certain levels since 1980s. The contact came through former congressional candidate Greg Pallen who then connected me with this person. The insider reached out to Greg as he felt Greg was trustworthy, he was correct. I recognized the name of this individual from documents I had seen in the past. All this being said, the dialog below truly sheds light on the mentality we are dealing with on the inside of the circle of insanity. I had a lengthy phone conversation with this contact who then decided to limit his communication to only Mr. Pallen again. Below is the first of two such dialogs (the second dialog will be posted soon). The writing in black italics is the original communication made to Greg Pallen by the insider shortly after the insider’s conversation with me. The statements in red are my initial response to the insider’s communication. These statements were later read by him and are the basis for the second communication already mentioned above from this contact. The statements below in blue were added for additional information on this posting. I gave my word to keep the identity of this insider confidential in addition to the name of a specific government facility named in the letter (now redacted). I will not violate this commitment, but the publishing of this letter (and one more) is my responsibility.

Hi Greg,

For Dane’s sphere of observation—he is close—-but he is not considering the larger models.

For instance, when climate change effects drive up RH—due to ocean heating and loss of natural cloud cover—–the power of the atmosphere to spawn huge and damaging storms is increased—-more storms and higher damage level storms.

I HAVE ALWAYS STATED THIS CONCLUSION, ALWAYS. THE PLANET IS TRYING TO COOL ITSELF, STOPPING OR DERAILING THIS PROCESS WILL ONLY MAKE THINGS WORSE IN THE LONG RUN. THE HYDROLOGICAL CYCLE IS ALWAYS ENHANCED AS THE PLANET WARMS, THE LAWS OF PHYSICS DICTATES THIS. DECIMATING THE HYDROLOGICAL CYCLE TO KEEP RH LEVELS DOWN CAN ONLY DO MUCH MORE HARM THAN ANY PERCEIVED GOOD. THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE WHEN THE ELEMENTS USED TO CARRY OUT THESE PROGRAMS ARE EXTREMELY TOXIC AND THUS CONTAMINATING THE ENTIRE PLANET.

As you may have taken note, the El Nino warm ocean effects drive up humidity levels over oceans and over land masses that cause areas like the US lots of damage due to storm frequency and energy.  High El Nino patterns did extensive storm damages in Tennessee.

REDUCING DAMAGING STORMS AT THE COST OF KILLING THE WHOLE PLANET IS NOT A REASONABLE TRADE OFF. IN ADDITION, AS ALREADY MENTIONED, THE EL NINO EVENTS ARE PART OF THE PLANET’S OVERALL LIFE SUPPORT PROCESS. THE ARROGANCE OF THOSE THAT BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO PLAY GOD IN THESE PROCESSES IS INEXCUSABLE. CURRENT AVAILABLE DATA INDICATES THAT YET AGAIN THE PREDICTED STRONG EL NINO MAY HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY SUPPRESSED FOR 2014.

One way to affect that increase is to cause rain-out of the humidity by inducing nucleation and rainfalls. It will take away from California’s typical weather patterns.

IT IS VIRTUALLY KILLING CALIFORNIA AND ITS BOREAL FORESTS. THESE FORESTS ARE BURNING TO THE GROUND AND THUS FUELING THE WARMING FURTHER. THE SAME IS TRUE IN COUNTLESS PLACES AROUND THE GLOBE. 100,000,000 ACRES A YEAR IN SIBERIA, ALL THE GLOBAL PLANKTON DYING OFF DUE TO THE DESTROYED OZONE LAYER, IS THIS JUST “FRINGE” DAMAGE?

But for the other parts of the US that driver effect off the oceans causes less storms for most of the US, less floods, less severe storms.

OR IN THE CASE OF CALIFORNIA, ALMOST NO STORMS AT ALL AND THE WORSE DROUGHT IN OVER 2000 YEARS ACCORDING TO THE LATEST DATA.

So, California inherits more wildfires and other problems and the rest of the US nets cooler summer temps, less flooding, and less serious storms. The weather here in East Tn has been much cooler and the storms fewer and less damaging. One storm at the height of the El Nino about ten years ago knocked out the power to the Y-12 plant because it twisted off the huge TVA 4-leg power towers feeding parts of “XXXXX” (redaction).

Like I told Dane on the phone—–the larger models move toward the larger balance equation of the entire US and if they have to kill off many trees in California to lower damage factors across expanses of the US——the trees there are going to take a hit.

IT’S ABSOLUTELY NOT JUST CALIFORNIA. WHO GIVES THESE MANIACS THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHO LIVES AND WHO DIES? WHO GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO PLAY GOD WITH THE CLIMATE SYSTEM?

It is akin to the “XXXXX” (redacted Gov. facility name)  thinking to get rid of Uranium Oxyfluoride liquid storage problems from Uranium Enrichment—-they burned and de-watered the compound using the TSCA incinerator at K-25 to the destruction of the Pine trees on almost the entire Oak Ridge Reservation.

This is why you don’t want National Security issues being run by Mason elements, as they will spin the truth and keep the people in the dark so they remain confused and not enlightened.

The truth is spun often in “XXXXX”(redacted Gov. facility name) and likewise the truth on Climate Change moderation issues are not shared with the public.    As the public would demand most of them that caused these serious problems be hung or shot by firing squad.

THIS STATEMENT IS THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE AT HAND. THE INSIDER IN THIS COMMUNICATION AND THOSE IN POWER DO IN FACT KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD DEMAND IMMEDIATE JUSTICE IF THEY TRULY BECAME AWARE OF THE CRIMES THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED IN OUR SKIES. THE POWER STRUCTURE WILL DO ANYTHING POSSIBLE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC FROM REACHING CRITICAL MASS OF AWARENESS IN REGARD TO THE CLIMATE ENGINEERING ISSUE.

I don’t blame Dane for complaining for what is happening to his back yard, as I would be up in arms also. Which is why they just need to tell all the people what is going on with climate change moderation methods and all decide on what measures are fair to all——yet serious enough to control Methane Boil off risk issues.

Most of the Simple Simon types that depend in the Govt to make decisions for them would not even be able to keep track of the issues and they would grid lock the system and make matters worse.    Dane looking at only his back yard issues and not the whole view of disaster control sort of falls into that area.

THIS STATEMENT COULD NOT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. THERE IS TUNNEL VISION IN THIS CONVERSATION, BUT IT’S NOT ME.

When you have a serious disaster, like this, it is impossible to keep all happy. And some areas are going to get hit harder to protect larger areas. They are also working a lot in uncharted areas and surprises keep happening.

WHAT A SHOCKER, THERE ARE SOME SURPRISES WHEN THE CLINICALLY INSANE TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES TO COMPLETELY AND TOXICALLY RE-ENGINEER EARTH’S LIFE SUPPORT SYSTEMS.ANYONE WHO ADVOCATES FOR THESE PROGRAMS HAS LOST THEIR SENSE OF MORALITY, SANITY, AND REASON.

Oak Ridge and the Manhattan Project screwed up a lot and most never knew about any of it, and the deal with Climate Change remediation is about the same mess.

46 Responses to Dialog With A Geoengineering Insider

  1. Ghost of Fall says:

    Open Letter to the Elite 

    Up until this point many people have wanted to talk directly to you but no one ever knew where you were hiding. I am here to tell you that I know EXACTLY where you are hiding. I know because I have been traveling around the world my entire life, and I have seen you everywhere in the shadows of this beautiful planet. I have seen you causing war, starvation, stealing resources, destroying nature, putting individuals in cages and entire countries in cages…….thinking you were somehow free. You were wrong. Because of everything you have done I had no choice but to put you in a cage with ME. My conscious wouldn't let you get away. And now I have set myself free, and you are trapped in that cage all by yourselves. If you knew how to get out of it on your own you wouldn't be here reading this. And now I'm looking in at you, waving the key in your faces. We here within this site are the only ones that you are actually afraid of for this reason alone, so you better pay attention to everything we are saying right now. 

    Not only is a large part of the population of the world angry at you, but the Earth itself is VERY ANGRY NOW. You think you are going to destroy first the animals and trees, and then the population of this Earth, and use technology to save you? I am here to tell you that that will never happen. The population of the Earth is the only spiritual resource large enough to fix the problems you have facilitated by your complete lack of connection to the source. At this moment in time you only have two choices:

    Option One

    Stop the chemtrails, stop the vaccines, stop putting fluoride in the water, stop the fracking, stop HAARP, stop the slave labor, stop the wars, stop the armies, stop the contract government, stop building nuclear facilities, and most importantly stop the lies. For once in your lives tell the world truth. Use the media to start telling the populations around the world the seriousness of situation and how everyone must now focus on turning things around while there is precious little time left. The population will start to renew their karma by restoring the planet back to a natural environment that supports all life as it once did. This will be more difficult in the first world countries that have gotten far too comfortable living within your lies. It will be easier for the third world countries which is most of the planet, who have been forced to endure your shackles. You will start to renew your karma by making a book listing in detail all of the countless ways that you have brought an entire planet nearly to the brink of extinction. This will be spread across the entire planet as the new law of the land for future generations to know exactly what to never do ever again.

    Option Two

    Continue to "play" God, watch the population of the planet disappear shortly to somewhere better, watch the world face a complete meltdown shortly after that, go down into your bunkers never to see the light of day ever again. Your karma will be so beyond repair that you will never escape this cage you are in for the rest of eternity. Let me explain to you what this looks like. This cage you are in now still has some natural light bestowed on you by God. That light will be replaced by artificial light. Your grandchildren will not be close to you because you will be the only connection they have to a humanity that destroyed the entire world, to which your lies with continue on even to them. They will go looking for the truth, and they will find it in a book about the changing of the seasons that no longer exist. And I will come back to them as the Ghost of Fall, time after time. And I will tell them that I tried to save their futures even though you wouldn't. And I will show them the truth behind every one of your lies. After awhile none of them will keep coming back to this Earth down there where you reside because there will be nothing left for anyone to learn there. The artificial light in your cage will then go dark. The spirit of the Earth itself will depart, and you will be left there for the rest of eternity by yourselves trapped within a dead planet unable to ever escape.

    Only God holds the hands of time and this is what it looks like. You really think you can play God? Think again.

    If this post is removed it will only prevent everyone that needs to, from being able to come out of the shadows immediately which will further seal your own fate. You think you are serving us with these tactics to kill all life on Earth? You are only serving yourselves. So know this:

    EVERYTHING YOU DO TO US NOW                                                                                                               ONLY COMES BACK                                                                                                                                                            

    TO YOU.         

    SO TELL ME NOW                                                                                                                                                    HOW DOES IT FEEL                                                                                                                                                             TO BE TRAPPED IN THAT CAGE                                                                                                                                ALL BY YOURSELVES                                                                                                                                            WHILE THE REST OF US

    ARE FREE?

    Even at this late hour GOD will not take away free will. The fact that you are reading this now before everyone around the world that cares the most about the future of this Earth is the only sign that GOD needs.

    EITHER TAKE THE KEY                                                                                                                                                 OR DON'T

    THE CHOICE                                                                                                                                                                     

    IS YOURS.

  2. Matt says:

    I live in Massachusetts and have seen plenty of chemtrails in the past but seen very few in the last couple months. Wondering if this is the case in other parts of the country.

    • Dagaan says:

      I'm in Oregon and just moved here from California where I lived for the last five years. There are lots of chems over the foothills ov the Sierras east of Sacramento. Here in Eugene there are regular chems. But my brother lives in Tennessee and doesn't see any chems.

      There's a scuttlebutt going around that chems are being sprayed West of California to prevent the moisture from falling on California so as to fall more on the rest of the continent. This is killing California. Most of the greens that feed America are grown in California and the forests are increasingly at risk. The Rocky fire burned some 60,000 acres in 24 hrs. This was in part due to drought but also due to the nano aluminum content in the trees FROM CHEMTRAILS. Aluminum is an ingredient in rocket fuel as it burns at 3000 something F. and once begun has a tremendous expansion rate – The Rocky fire may have been due to aluminum accelerating the burning. 

      The 'scientists' running the geoengineering may themselves be dupes of Masons or other agencies that could want something like the liberal West Coast becoming empoverished because if they were financially strong they could have the power to follow through on the sessesnist talk going around. How do we penetrate the secrecy of this destructive mind set?

  3. anthony barrett says:

    OH AND IVE NOT LOST MY MIND,THIS IS WHAT I DO TRULY BELIEVE WHY WOULD HUMANS DESTROY THE ONLY PLANET WE HAVE TO SURVIVE ON,MAYBE THEY ARE COMPLETLY INSANE,PEACE AND BLESS TO ALL.

  4. anthony barrett says:

    THESE ARE JUST EVIL SCUM HES RIGHT THEY ALL NEED PUT BEFORE A CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY COURT,SOMETIMES I WONDER IF WE AR BEING KILLED OF NOT BY HUMANS BUT EVIL ET,S

  5. Jenny says:

    We should not think around this and disperse our power. We must understand only one thing: these people and everything they do is so EVIL that it is not understood by us. We think pulling the wings off flies is evil. This is the trick: take EVIL to the max level and people won’t comprehend it. So they can get away with it because you and I will say: “They wouldn’t do that”. The sheeple still think the Satanic entities have their best interest at their pitch fork. Wake up people this is as bad as it gets before we start dropping dead.

  6. ak says:

    I think this member of the weather modification professiency is really in his backyard. we never had so many records of floods like in the past 10 yrs. and this in europe! I have seen temp. differences locally that were unbelivably high!
    this in Europe, Germany! germany is used to some variety of weathers but not to severe storms and floodings. and average temps aren’t even rising. the whole mitigation thing is to blind the people who work in this imo. it doesn’t make sense otherwise. The sun shining through an artificial cloud feels stingy and atleast two times brighter. I did observe this in the morning when I could compare. we didn’t have any blue day anymore. at max some days blue until noon.we used to have some blue days in a row. I am observing daily since almost 3 yrs now.
    I believe that there is a lot of psyop involved.

  7. Malcolm Pritchard says:

    Oh and I forgot to mention I have just washed the car and it is now covered in visible particulate matter, there has been no wind today so it can only have come from the planes overhead.

  8. Malcolm Pritchard says:

    The insider is obviously as insane as the rest of the psychopaths who are currently steering planet earth into destruction. Here in the UK they have been spraying heavily for the last 3 days, the sun feels very hot and the atmosphere is more like a chemical smog. It is alarming to see the air thickly contaminated with particulate material and then there is a strange wall of mist over the sea. I am not an atmosphere scientist or one of those white coated priests at the top who claim to be an expert but it is obvious to me particularly this year that the situation is getting very serious. Unfortunately over here there seems to be few people awake to this issue.

  9. Torben svare says:

    To Elaine Brown : those Warriors of the Rainbow will not use Monsanto seeds??? will they 😛 i hope not! seeds that make green that make no AC power.

  10. Elaine Brown says:

    When the earth is Ravaged and the animals are Dying, a new tribe of people shall come onto the earth from many colors, creeds, and classes and who by their Actions and Deeds shall make the earth green again. They shall be known as the Warriors of the Rainbow.
    Hopi Prophecy

  11. James C.Y. says:

    Hello from southern ontario,canada.Sept.10 much of our region was deluged with excessive rainfall,50 to 80 mm from a large weather front that crossed ontario.On sept.11 evening news a local farmer was interviewed and stated that his late summer crop of white beans is in jeopardy.He said the unseasonably cool temperatures put other food crops at risk also,they need sunshine and warmth yet.With unfortunate ignorance he said we are at the mercy of mother nature.There has also been an early taste of winter snow in southern alberta.And the average person does not view these events as unusual or abnormal.Weather has unquestionably become a weapon of mass obstruction/destuction of the gansgters/banksters through the usa military industrial complex.Disrupt or destroy the food chain,and turn normalcy into organized chaos to keep the sheeple off balance and distracted.And now terminator Obama will destroy on any sovreign country’s soil the terrorists the west and the oil sheiks funded and put there in the first place.The controllers are not concerned with internet trouble makers.They control the media flow and the politicians and can keep the sheeple asleep until they make the end game of full global control.Is the collective consciousness of all of us opposers and the Cosmic Overlords(Gods) symbolized and energized by the Sun which they also work hard at diminishing be enough to forestall their efforts?YES YES YES or they would not be ramping up their efforts the way they are.Dane keep up the great work for a better tomorrow.We all must find our inner God use that power and strength to bring our Earthly Home back to the beautiful,diverse,harmonious and safe place it should be.Our Gods be with us.

  12. Ana Santos says:

    Seems to me that they are hiding something much bigger besides these already known criminal acts that they are doing to the planet and to us and that they seem to be authorized to raise slightly the veil sometimes about certain facts to not to rase more suspicions !(maybe my feelings are wrong…but i feel something destructive but expectable to them is coming in the way for us …when? i don´t know …of course they will call it natural causes(or terrorism act?) and cataclisms to people give them more power and they are suposed to be our protectors and the ones to maitain the order afther a cataclism ) i think they (the people in charge of doing these experiments or programs allover the world)know the big consequences are going to “arrive” above all of us (they must knew it long ago),they must have already probable dates and seems to me they are just gaining time to avoid unecessary confrontation with public critical masses riots if they would tell us the truth of what is happening with the world by their own credits(instead of a well assembled lie).Maybe having the control/knowlede in hands they know what to do to protect/save themselves(just a exclusive number of them i guess) and perhaphs that is their philsophy :to sacrífice countries/regions/ populations for their bigger porpouses of controling the world and the damages they inflicted against the planet already or hiding these big damages they already did to envyroment (by greed and power),maybe damages even donne to our entire planet and space system around the globe .I think our planet no longer will be the same (maybe even our no longer predictable solar radiation is being affected),if people will do nothing I think we will live in a hell of an artificial and sickening world and with no minimum control in our lifes anymore til our probable extintion one day. And please don´t tell me that it is the Military controling or owning the weather (as i already saw in a comment once in you tube) cause governments/politicians can´t be inocents in these things going on above their heads in their own countries (in their controled air spaces)and we know there are private companies on this “business” too.Governments pay the salaries to militaries ,governments suposely possesse their armies and not the oposite in western countries…or am i wrong?
    I never was sick before and i was almost sufocating everyday for about two weeks with my throat closing(swollen) and i went to several doctors and they could not found anythimg in my throat that could justify my complains ,then later i had to take cortisone for about a month from to 8 in 8 hours cause i felt i was going to die and could not eat in order to breath(to survive ,is overwhelming)soon we will pay well them to give us the right to breath or to give us sun protection (fake clouds)cause they destroyed our world´s natural protections ,they seem to have all the power in their hands when they are messing with our air and with all the life cicle on Earth and they became literally the Gods that decide how many people they will sacrífice or kill here or there today by spraying this or that or doing less tests or doing more tests or changing the weather and clima by making floods here or making deserts there…something very dangerous to us is going on with these experimentations in the air and destroying our soils and water and the sun. They weaponized space and weather.Even the sun seems to be changing in his emissions of rays or reflectivity to space and in envyroment (for me is becoming letal,that´s what i feel in my skin and eyes and i´m used to hot shining climas-that´s where i was born but thatá how i feel with clean skies now,sorry ,i´m being honest!)with this experimentations seems that there´s no longer natural clouds ,even those looking natural clouds are strange they can even look like fire behind them and dark like if a storm is coming and look scary when two kilometers away you will find clean sky again.Now they stay with the planes stoped in the air for minutes and then go on leaving some more trails and then they stop again ,one(plane) once was reflecting the sun that i thought maybe was a ufo but then i saw was just the plane stoped near a suposely natural cloud but then he started making trails and stoped again and i was driving and couldn´t look more(it was in early morning when the sun started rising on the horizont …with my experience now i felt that i can be killed like a bug and i never felt like this in my whole life(sufocating) and it hapened in August of this year of 2014 …I get amazed when people like jess Ventura just look at his own belly button when he should know that a fact today might not be the same fact tomorrow …
    Thanks Dane for your good work! and loved that last article of Greg Pallen

    • Carlos says:

      the same here in the area where I live, we get no natural clouds anymore, only chemtrails and the burning sun.

  13. Earth Angel says:

    Jo, I agree with your sentiments but wait- ‘given amnesty and protection’?.. by who?.. The government? the police? They’d have to go to an organization like Oathkeepers for protection, or find out Edward Snowden’s contacts.. Just sayin’! Still, I agree they should come forward regardless of the consequences. I don’t know how they can live with themselves every day- I couldn’t look myself in the mirror knowing what a coward I was destroying all life on earth for personal gain.

  14. mim says:

    California is our food basket. Hello! I can’t believe they would destroy the ability to grow food by creating man made drought. For a fat bank roll? UG

  15. Bella_Fantasia says:

    For Greg Pallen:

    Doesn’t that just say it all? Someone else talked about inheriting the Earth but losing one’s soul, I recall.

  16. Bella_Fantasia says:

    Thank you, Dane, Russ and everyone here who is trying desperately to shine a light on these crimes.

    We’re dealing “yes men” who subvert their own agency, buying into the deceit and lies. How bad must things become before a reassessment of their benign acceptance gob smacks them?

    We should move on to support genuine whistle blowers like Kristen Meghan, those with a conscience who will speak publicly.

  17. earth moving??? says:

    What a dimwit!! This is exactly what we are seeing with all those who are the ones responding to the issues of the people…clueless!
    I live in the Sacramento area and we have been having trees fall within the same line (one was an oak, one a pine) one right after another. Today my neighbor told me that her pool water was tested and had high amounts of nitrogen!

  18. Frieda Nelson says:

    I agree totally with you. Stop the pychopaths…take care of everything else but never forget to stop those who are out to put us down and out of the picture. That will be by any means.

  19. Athena rage of the warrior says:

    Cognitive dissonance in action! He is not fully awake yet!
    We are out of time….they are killing us.

    http://rt.com/usa/186076-us-respiratory-virus-spread/#.VA50UFUdXuo.facebook

    This is not a coincidence!

  20. Athena rage of the warrior says:

    Not stupid…classic case of cognitive dissonance!

  21. Ken says:

    Great comments, I read them all. I think that what this guy is saying really can’t be trusted.
    If you connect the dots, there is a different version of truth coming into view.

    * Why do the elite have a seed vault in Northern Europe?
    * Why have terminator seeds and GMO’s that harm people being pushed on us?
    * Why does Bill Gates talk about reducing P(people) in his equation to reduce CO2?
    * Why do they keep spraying California so it won’t rain there and the crops will be decimated?
    * Why is UN Agenda 21 being pushed on every city?
    * Why are Farmers and Ranchers being targeted?

    This is Weather WARFARE. Part of the “bigger picture” of population reduction and Privatization.
    Weakening us to the point where a full takeover by the UN and NATO is possible. They MUST be stopped.

  22. Jo says:

    Re: “I don’t blame Dane for complaining for what is happening to his back yard, as I would be up in arms also.”

    What is he talking about? It is affecting the WHOLE PLANET!!!! The whole planet is our back yard!

    I live in Bournemouth in the United Kingdom and they cover the sky pretty well every day with geo-engineered trails.

    Sounds like Ken Caldeira…..

    Whoever it is, if he has any conscience at all, which it sounds to me he does…. he’d say, to hell with it, I’ve made a huge mistake going up this path with these psychopaths. I don’t like it. I’m not happy. I will make at least some amends by speaking out now, for my family’s sake. I’m prepared to take the consequences and for what it’s worth, I’m going to help try and do the right thing now.

    Say it like it is……

    Come into the open and tell the truth. You might even end up being a hero if you were prepared to share all you know…

    Obviously it is dangerous, but no doubt, due to the fact you are a valuable witness, you would be given amnesty and protection if you were prepared to tell the truth and bear witness to the people involved in this unspeakable crime that has been/is being committed against humanity and all life on the Earth.

    Have courage and help us save the Earth and humanity now!

    The information you hold is invaluable!

  23. Dkblue says:

    Yeah well it’s happenening in my back yard also – the most isolated city on the planet. No one asked anyone here if we would like to be part of a biological warfare experiment. The sheer and unspeakable arrogance and complete disregard for the systems of life on our unique planet is impossible to fathom for a person of conscience – for most of humanity. And we watch in horror and try to spread the word not just for humanity, but for the inumerable other species, the other beings with whom we share this earth, with whom we are inextricably related and who cannot speak…. Karma is a bitch and those who perpetrate these crimes and who are complicit WILL suffer the consequences of maiming and murdering us all. Cause and effect, simple.

  24. Michel B says:

    Let me get this right. As long ago as the 1940s, governments and their scientists and the military started experimenting with weather modification to start protecting us by the the late 1990s? Why didn’t they just work on developing carbon neutral technologies in the last half of the last century instead? The answer: Because Geoengineering is not about quelling a problem with climate change/greenhouse effect, but is a military and economic weapon with no positive effects for the population at large. The conversation with the insider above is unsatisfactory as to the motives and severe effects of geoengineering, but it is at least a further admission that these programs are happening.

  25. James says:

    This a shocking, eye-opening exchange. The first peak into the inner workings of the collective mind running the operation. CA is collateral damage, bigger problems need containment (read methane). Yes the military is managing our weather, they know best anyway. Wow. Well, I guess we all intuitively understood that must be the view from somewhere near the top, but then to hear someone actually utter the words..

    And “surprises keep happening”, like the Calgary flood, the Toronto flood, the Sask/Manitoba flood, the ice storms over 80% of our country’s population last winter. and on and on. But this is going on all over the world. We have entered a time of climate chaos, and ‘they’ are the driver’s seat.

    Are these the same people that took down the world trade center? The answer is obvious. And of course it began well before that milestone day, however, their attempted control over this planet now includes the climate, the food and water we eat and drink, and finally the air we breathe.

    We plebs are in very dire straights. Why can’t the general population just catch on? Its happening right above their heads. It’s a hard question to find the answer for. The hypnosis runs deep. The skies will be crisscrossed for days at length, and then revert back to clear blue and fluffy cumulus for a brief period of a few days, before it begins again ushering in a new frontal wave, guided by those geometric lines in the sky. Don’t people ever once ask themselves why their skies are striped one day, but not the next? Did all air traffic suddenly stop? Unfortunately no, it doesn’t occur to them. The species has a blind spot there.

    I look forward to the next installment explaining this nightmare. Let’s hope this communique is genuine and not another targeted hit. I trust your judgement Dane.

    All the best!
    James-in-Ont

  26. manor dweller says:

    informant, so far you present the obvious

  27. Robin Rich says:

    We all need to keep talking and educating people.Three years ago even my own family thought I was crazy, but now they are all believers and are helping spread the word. Dane did a great job with LaMalfa, I saw him studder a few times! Dianne Feinstien is hopeless. She still thinks a 900′ barrier for GMO;s to Organic fields is just fine!

  28. Steve says:

    This man’s hubris is astounding, well nigh pathological and certainly frightening. The utter casualness he seems to adopt is bizarre. “Ho hum, we screwed California, oh well, another day at the office” And the last statement, about Manhattan Project and Oak Ridge “screwing up”, and being in “the same mess”category with geoengineering, makes me thank God we’re still alive at all down here on planet Earth.It certainly is NOT thanks to the highly-paid maniacs in BigGuvScienceIncorporated.

  29. Randy says:

    The evidence of damage from this insanity is everywhere.
    The trees everywhere are tell the damning story.
    The effects are compounding as on the Richter Scale.
    Soon, very soon…All will see.
    We are in the 11th hour.

  30. Carol says:

    Wow! This is typical jargon for a government controlled robot. Dane, we applaud you for your “big picture” thinking. We know your concern is for the whole planet, not just California. This is just a disinformation tactic to undermine the seriousness and scale of their insane weather experimentation. True government compartmentalization.

  31. blue says:

    Dane
    Please do an article on oxegen depletion..
    The barium used in geoengineering an oxygen scavenger… we are running out of it!!!!
    Blue

  32. Laura Sutton says:

    This man wouldn’t happen to live outside of California by any chance? Even that is irrelevant….where are the IQ tests for these people? How about the concept of the follow-through of thinking? i.e. NOT solving a problem by not (DUH!!) creating a bigger problem (DUH!!!) somewhere else or sometime else. There is such a lack of the old fashioned trait called WISDOM in this geoengineering strategy … if you can call it that. The term ‘STRATEGY” is too big of a compliment for this riddled-with-holes thinking. Immediate gratification is for children, not policy makers.

  33. Håkan says:

    The killers in the sky must be stopped. California a paradise on
    this planet is being turned into hell. Just spraying us like we are rats all over the globe. Thanks Dane and your partners for doing such a good job to stop this genocide.

  34. Jan says:

    I don’t believe for a minute that this guy knows the real reasons behind climate engineering. He’s just a cog in a big machine and the machine operators have plans he has no idea of. He does seem stupid, but I think he has merely forced himself into tunnel vision in order to live with himself and what he’s helped do to life on this planet. In his heart he knows how very wrong this activity is. There are so many factors the intentionally insane seem never to consider, yet I think they do. I think California is being targeting not least because we contribute about 50% of the FOOD in the USA. And the most organic food in the US. Cause our agriculture to die and you’ve got a pretty good start to a major famine.

  35. bully says:

    If I did not know better I would say this insider was made up to advance our debate. I mean, how could anyone be so obtuse? But alas I fear he is not made up and is merely a sad, sick reflection of the type of psychopaths that have risen to the top of nearly every organization in this centrally planned system now in control.

  36. Paul Potter says:

    You cannot get a straight answer from anyone in Government on this issue.Senator Feinstein sent me an email telling me how great HAARP was and that there was no evidence of harmful effects to the earth or the population.Every local politician says it is not their jurisdiction so they cannot comment on SRM and weather modification.They “will look into it”I also agree that this guy was looking to discredit Danes opinion and research and that it seems that California will have to die for the greater good of the rest of the United States.”propaganda I agree”keep up the great work Dane”You have informed and inspired me to study and share this with all my associates and contacts.These people make me sick.They have to be stopped.

  37. Doug baugh says:

    The root of all evil!

  38. todd says:

    I recently saw a video showing the absence of life in the tide pools on the west coast.I took my children to tide pools ,so I’m aware of what a normal tide pool looks like. Went to Monterey last weekend , hoping the video was a hoax.To my horror it was true. Almost totally void of life. only small snails.gone are the star fish,crabs,seaenmies.ect. I read this Geoengineers comments with awe.We must sacrifice California/ the west. for the greater good of the country.ie reasoning is storms cause damage and cost money.
    But this Spraying is happening everywhere . So that argument is pointless.What about food production when the soil become’s infertile?He’s right if the public knew what they were doing He and his employers would be swinging from a rope for crimes against humanity.

  39. eve says:

    the criminally insane are at the helm . . . keep spreading the news . . .

    • Allan says:

      How Fluoride Affects Consciousness and the Will to Act

      http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/08/22/fluoride-affects-consciousness-will-act/

      In Lies We Trust
      When truth becomes conspiracy, reality becomes an illusion.
      The world as we know it, is an illusion based on lies and deceit.

      If the world seems insane, it’s because it is run by insane people.
      Money talks and people can be bought
      Jobs at all cost, cost us all.
      So stop going along to get along, because it is wrong and it does cost us all.

      Ignorance is not bliss, it is how we are all being used and abused.
      Blind trust will be humanities undoing.
      So stop believing blindly and question everything.

      You may think you are free, but really you are only free to conform.
      Truth is knowledge.
      Knowledge is power.
      Knowing the truth will set you free.

      People say they love their (grand)children.
      Talk is cheap.
      Actions speak louder than words.
      This world is in a sad state of affairs and needs fixing.
      So grab a cause and get involved.
      Be the change you want to see.
      If you do nothing, nothing will happen.

      You can make a difference now
      by sharing this message.

      Deal with reality, before it deals with you.

      How Will the 99% Deal with 70 Million Psychopaths?
      What can we do collectively to contain and manage this small minority of … Can we contain the 70 million psychopaths in the world today?
      http://www.cognitivepolicyworks.com/blog/2012/07/24/how-will-the-99-deal-with-70-million-psychopaths/

      Psychopaths Rule Our Entire World – Politicians and Bankers are all Psychopaths
        Look at their eyes and you can see something is unnatural in there!     I was thinking that it has always struck me, that when studying politicians and businessman in media they always seems to be totally out …

      http://helpsaveourkidsfuture.wordpress.com/2014/01/03/psychopaths-rule-our-entire-world-politicians-and-bankers-are-all-psychopaths/

  40. Jason Foust says:

    Wow! I see the nonchalant impassiveness in this guy’s attitude… He would have us all believing that climate engineering is benignly inevitable and to have little concern as they keep experimenting and letting the chips fall where they may. If a few trees or folks die in this process, oh well, because this is the lesser of a necessary evil, so to speak! Self-centered insanity to the extreme!

    One possibility here is a particular characteristic of ego, hence an attempt by the ‘clinically insane’ to quell the effectuality of Dane’s ambitious exposure of these crimes, through this channel, Idk? As if WE who know would ever be deterred by this brand of equivocation… This guy also conveniently circumvents the myriad of other aspects of their ‘holistically’ obscured agenda. I see this insider’s subtle correspondence as intentional propaganda. JF

  41. Terri says:

    These monsters are insane! What gives them the right to make those decisions for every living thing on the planet? They are capable and willing to wipe out the trees, planets, food, life support in favor of corporate interests. That is what it is all about. greed is the creed.

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