Geoengineering Watch Global Alert News, August 11, 2018, #157

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Dane Wigington
GeoengineeringWatch.org

Our world is changing to a degree and at a rate that few yet understand. Wheels have been set in motion that can no longer be stopped. How will the masses react to what is unfolding? How long do we have until major links in the chain of our current reality begin to break? The latest installment of Global Alert News is below.

Many converging scenarios will not seem real to most until their own personal paradigm is shattered. All who are already aware of what is unfolding are needed in the critical effort to circulate credible data. We are not helpless, collectively we can yet make a difference, make your voice heard.
DW

This week's GeoengineeringWatch.org outreach booth is at the Scottish Rite Center, Sacramento, California and is shown below. My most sincere and continuing gratitude to the Gem Faire exhibition organizers for facilitating and setting up this very effective booth in every week's Gem Faire location. The schedule for upcoming Gem Faire events is HERE. A geoengineeringwatch.org booth will be at all events, thanks to the steadfast support of Gem Faire.

135 Responses to Geoengineering Watch Global Alert News, August 11, 2018, #157

  1. Concerned says:

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

     

    a great article by Robert J Burrowes, "Human Extinction by 2026?"

    • Danielle says:

      Concerned,

      This link brings you to their main website, which oddly enough (: )) I already have had bookmarked for a couple of years – EXCELLENT SITE, however I can't find Mr. Burrowes article?  I'll keep looking, my eyes aren't what they once were.  Thanks.

      Dani

  2. kVirginia says:

    Rachel Robson, where are you?   Rachel hasn't posted for quite sometime, if I am correct.   Her contributions are always interesting and pertinent and quite witty and an added asset to this site.  I was wondering if any poster knows why she hasn't chimed in of late?

    Rachel, if you are reading this, I miss your comments and hope that you are well and life is treating you kindly down there in the low country of the Bay Area of California.  Let us hear from you, and soon.

    Best wishes.  Virginia

  3. Virginia says:

    Dane, there is a quite lengthy article featured on Information Clearing House by Robert Burrowes entitled HUMAN EXTINCTION BY 2026, dated 8/15/18.  I gave a cursory read on it and don't know what to make of it.  He gives many, many links to other sources which would take the reader a month to ingest.  He opens his piece with:
    "We are on the fast track to extinction.  On the current trajectory, assuming we can avert nuclear war, sometime between 2021 and 2016, the last human will take their (sic) last final breath."
    Another quote: "The insane individuals who control the institutions that are driving extinction will NEVER act to avert it".
    Interspersed among those quotes was a compilation of his take on what is causing this extinction and what strategies we can follow to mitigate the end….for in his opinion, it is too late to avert the inevitable.  Long story short, if you have the time or inclination, would you please review the article and give us your take on it?  I know it is presumptuous of me to ask this of you, but I feel he is lacking some credibility by his skirting around certain issues. Thank you, Dane. Of many articles I have read on these issues, your presentations, either verbally or written are the most succinct, educational, believable and based on facts of any of them.   Gratefully, Virginia
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50050.ht

    • Paul Vonharnish says:

      Hello Virginia: Yes. I read the Robert Burrowes piece on the original source page, and several of his comments tend to conflict with his basic premise of human extinction by 2026.  I don't disagree with his environmental analysis, but like many others, he refuses to detail the most immediate processes needed to stop atmospheric damage.

      1. WE NEED TO GROUND ALL AIRCRAFT – Period.

      2. WE NEED TO STOP ALL SPACE LAUNCHES – Period.

      3. WE NEED TO STOP ALL MILITARY ACTIONS – Period.

      4. WE NEED TO MASSIVELY SCALE BACK ALL UNNECESSARY  COMMUNICATIONS AND RADIO BROADCAST – Period.

      5. WE NEED TO STOP ALL NONESSENTIAL INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING – Period.

      ALL the above actions are necessary, and need immediate implementation.  The option is to kiss the Earth goodby within less than a decade.  People need to grow up and realize that there is no time left for debates about "economic costs" and the politics of incompetent morons and environmental thugs.

    • Dennie says:

      There are PLENTY of things we needed to do, a long, long L-O-N-G time ago.  Like LISTEN to the M.I.T. report, "Limits to Growth," and not have made fun of or otherwise have demonized the Club of Rome for asking Where This Is All Going– they needed to know, too, and were the first to ask.  Unfortunately the Big Oil Bastards Who Worship Money got the upper hand, kicking Carter out of the White House and promptly removed the solar panels on top when the New Occupant, Ronnie Ray-Gun, moved in.  Most of the rest of us had no problem going along with the greedy suck-hog live-for-now Big-Oil-Eats-and-So-Do-We philosophy, and splurged on gas-guzzling massive "safe" S.U.V.s the minute they were expecting a kid.  As if somehow that's going to keep us all "safe," from everything…..

  4. V. Susan Ferguson says:

    VSF:  This is an excerpt from a long article, and while I applaud Reuters for their efforts, ‘lead poisoning’ is only one of the contaminants that are lurking hidden on hundreds of military bases around the planet. As you know, the US military is the biggest polluter on earth. In one way, this report could be seen as a distraction from larger more deadly issues.  

    Privatizing U.S. military housing was supposed to protect service members’ families. Instead, some of their children are being poisoned by lead. A Reuters investigation unearths dangers in base homes, lapses in military oversight, and a code of silence keeping families at risk.
    JOSHUA SCHNEYER and ANDREA JANUTA / Aug. 16, 2018
    … The symptoms began suddenly. At 18 months, JC would awake screaming. He began refusing food, stopped responding to his name and lost most of his words.  “He was disappearing into an isolated brain,” Darlena recalls.  For nearly a year, doctors probed: Was it colic? Autism? Ear infections? Then, in late 2012, came a call from JC’s pediatrician: He had high levels of lead in his blood.  When Darlena told Villages of Benning of his poisoning, contractors ordered home testing. …
    The results: At least 113 spots in the home had lead paint, including several peeling or crumbling patches, requiring $26,150 in lead abatement. Villages of Benning moved the Browns into another old house next door.  The heavy metal had stunted JC’s brain, medical records reviewed by Reuters show. At age two, he was diagnosed with a developmental disorder caused by lead. …
    For years, he has told the Army of failures to defend children on U.S. bases from lead poisoning, a preventable household health hazard. Ingesting the heavy metal can severely affect mental and physical development, especially in children, causing brain damage and other potentially lifelong health impacts. But poisoning is avoidable if old homes containing lead paint are properly monitored and maintained. “There is no acceptable number of children that the Army can allow to be so egregiously hurt,” Cale wrote in a letter to the Army Office of the Inspector General last year, describing the poisoning of JC and hundreds of other military kids he was aware of. He hasn't received a response to the letter's concerns.
    The Browns’ story and others, told publicly for the first time here, reveal a toxic scourge inside homes on military bases. Previously undisclosed military and state health records, and testing by Reuters for lead in soldiers’ homes, show problems at some of America’s largest military installations.  Federal law defines lead-based paint as containing 0.5 percent or more lead by weight. Sales have been banned since 1978. But many older homes still contain lead paint, which is particularly dangerous when it peels, chips or turns to dust – easy for kids to swallow or breathe in.
    Reuters tested five homes at Benning, using a methodology designed with a Columbia University geochemist. All five contained hazardous levels of deteriorating lead paint within reach of children, in one case exceeding the federal threshold by a factor of 58. …  The thousand-plus blood results, obtained from Army bases through Freedom of Information Act requests, provide only a glimpse of the problem. A $10 finger-prick test can spot a child exposed to lead, yet millions of U.S. children are never screened. Just how many are tested across all military bases isn’t clear. But for those who are, the results often go unreported to state public health agencies that attend to poisoned kids.  … “These are families making sacrifices by serving,” said Dr. Bruce Lanphear, a toxicity researcher at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia who reviewed Reuters’ findings. “It appears that lead poisoning is sometimes the cost of their loyalty to the military.” …
    The military knew hazards lurked in its housing. In 2005, the Army released an environmental study that said 75 percent of its 90,000 homes nationwide didn’t meet its own standards of quality or safety.  Of Benning, it said: “As homes deteriorate, the risk of children’s being exposed to hazardous materials … would increase.”  Twenty years after privatization began, in 2016, a DOD Inspector General report found that poor maintenance and oversight left service families vulnerable to “pervasive” health and safety hazards. …
    Military families can face special difficulties if they complain about hazards in their homes, however. They are taking on landlords who are in business with their employer. Among the 60 interviewed for this story, more than half expressed fear that being identified could hurt a military member’s career.

    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-military-housing/

  5. GretchenThomas says:

    The "Sunlight Vitamin"-D   http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/review-benefits-vitamin-d-and-recommendations

    This article about the benefits of UV-B and Vit. D for disease prevention is worth reading. Limiting sun exposure may actually prevent cancer better than avoiding the Sun. Will wearing a full-spectrum carefully selected sunscreen protect us from the excessive UV-B bombardment while still allowing some beneficial UV-B absorption? 

  6. Black Cat Italy says:

    Our thoughts and prayers as with everyone in the wildfire areas.

    Thanks  for those who replied re the moon.  Sorry, I forgot the 11th was a solar eclipse, which we didn't see either (maybe it was seen in the US).  I spoke with a neighbour yesterday and he too has not seen the moon for a long time.  Today, we have had constant thunder and at last a little rain. Thankfully it is cooler today at 75F.

    Two days ago, there was terrible weather in Genoa, Italy, when the huge elevated road bridge collapsed killing over 38 people (and still searching for bodies). It created maximum chaos as it was the day before the main Italian holiday 15th August (Ferragosto), when most people were travelling). People reported thunder so intense they had never heard anything like it before.  Climate engineering again? Yes, we know that there were faults with the bridge but the extremely heavy rain and conditions meant that people were having to go at a crawl pace across it.

    That same night, just before midnight, we were awoken by an earthquake. Our house shuddered, bed shook and awoke us with our earthquake alarm going off. Luckily, it was a shock from the epicentre of the quake further south. It was a 4.8 magnitude quake. 

    Planes spraying above the cloud on the 15th too and rain today but no one seems to connect the dots.

     

  7. 'a' simple horseman says:

    Dane and ALL, Today I was privileged to have a nice conversation with a young man from the WA DNR. He came to my job site to speak with my customer about fire prevention methods and forest restoration. The DNR has a program that will pay for some or all of the cost to "groom" the forest to what it once was a hundred or more years ago. He obviously had learned a lot about the history of our forests before mankind messed them all up. Towards the end of our meeting he handed us both his card and I handed him 3 different flyers. It was good to see his eyes light up. He stated he watches a lot of you tube and likes to learn more than be entertained. I briefly explained that what he sees coming out of the tanker jets is extremely flammable and extremely hard on all life. I explained how it affects different species of trees and is killing them from the bottom up and the UV is killing them from the top down. We were standing in the middle of "case in point". Myself, I got to learn more about how the beetles work over a tree that is sick or dead. Quite interesting. I will see that young man again some day. It's a small town around here. I am anxious to hear what he will have learned about the effects of geo engineering.

    • Kenneth Cleland says:

      I have a couple questions. 1. What does WA DNR mean ? My guess is that WA stands for the State of Washington, but DNR ? 2. If my guess of  about what State it is correct and they have such a program in place. Can this sort place to return the forest back to even 50 years ago. Can such a program be  possible for the State of California. When I worked for the Federal Forest Service it was a common and daily practice between fires to thin out the forest & to have controlled burns to clear manzanita from areas that we overgrown making access to a hillside possible or the manzanita was to close to roads which if it ever caught fire it would burn so hot and fast which made firefighting that much harder and much more dangerous, but they stopped that type of beneficial work sometime back and it has been getting harder and more frequent fires that getting to the point where we are now. Not to mention the spraying that has been going on for sometime this now.  I do not understand the real bottom line here in regards to the spraying, but it’s the government and who really knows their end game when it comes to the killing of natural beauty and the destruction of wildlife, fish, water, people and home. Redding is my place of birth and I grew up and spent over 7/8 of my life in California. For the past 12 years I have unfortunately been stuck in Nebraska, but I want to return soon. I have a home in Lodi and family all over the Anderson/Tedding area. They spray here in Nort EStern Nebraska too. I have plenty of photos. My days of being able to work ended in 2002 so coming home is problematic because of the rising cost of living, but I am working on a plan. Lastly I would like to hear back from you in regards to your thoughts about this WA DNR program and wether or not you think it can be accomplished in California. Lord knows the government is not going to spend money keeping the forest nice and healthy. They have their money set aside for the military war machine.  

    • 'a' simple horseman says:

      Kenneth Cleland, hello my friend I have not met yet, Thank you for contributing to my commentary. First off WA DNR, Washington State Department of Natural Resources. Secondly, there will be no restoration of forests if the aerosol assault does not stop. I truly wish I could "rain on your parade"(grin). Trees are dying from the roots up. By the time they show signs above ground, what has already happened below ground is beyond repair. Older trees are dying by the day and young seedlings are nonexistent. I see this with my own eyes every day all year long. Here's what I found astonishing about the DNR restoration program. They want to save the  Ponderosa and cut down the Larch fir and Western Tamarack. Which by the way, the forest service, 10 years ago, classified them as one and the same. Hm, lets see here, one has short tough needles all year around and the other looses its needles after they turn yellow in the fall. Oh, and they are the ones that are still hanging on here in my region. The Ponderosa look like crap. What a slow painful death they are going through. FYI, I've been "around" the USFS all my life, literally. We'll leave it at that.

      Lastly, those "prescribed burns" you wrote of, I'm all for them. In 2015, the wild fire stopped up on the ridge a mile from me, where the prescribed burn zone ended. It also helped that they turned off the wind generators at the same time. I've connected a lot of dots.

  8. Virginia says:

    To Dennie….Hi.  Your reply to my comment re the sixth firefighter to die in California.  I presented a post as to possibility of our acknowledging all of these brave fighters in some way.  I am a little disappointed in your reply, if I am interpreting it correctly.   This sixth firefighter was only 42, married, with a seven-year old son who was to start first grade this week.  He was a resident of Utah and volunteered, along with other firemen of his state to come help out.  A burning tree fell on him.  Just one example of how these six men gave their all for us  You write that our 'tax dollars' pay their salaries.  I am not sure what you meant.  But, it seemed  rather callous under the circumstances.  There isn't enough money to compensate for what these guys go through and the possible consequences of that job.  Whatever they get, it isn't enough.  If I misjudge you, I apologize.  His last name was Burchett. He won't be here to see his son in first grade.  Mr. Burchett's brother was also fighting the fires here in California.  I reiterate……we owe them all so much…over and above our 'tax dollars.'  RIP Mr Burchett and the other five heroes.

    Thanks, Dennie.

     

    • Dennie says:

      @Virginia:  You asked what people have been doing to acknowledge the firefighters, so I wrote that.  Now I see this what you wrote.  I have no idea what,or why, you're saying what you've said.  Please be more careful when asking questions and getting answers.  Take a minute and think how you're going to be received.  I have said nothing that disrespects any of these people in any way.  

  9. Joseph L says:

    Progressive Commentary Hour – Geoengineering’s failed efforts to curb climate change, its blowback on the environment , methane threats and governments’ efforts to mask the severity of our climate change crisis with guest Dane Wigington
    http://prn.fm/progressive-commentary-hour-geoengineerings-failed-efforts-curb-climate-change-blowback-environment-methane-threats-governments-efforts-mask-severity-climate-cha/
    I am listening to the show right now. I am glad Gary Null has you on. You will be on the radio station wbai on friday and I hope you get a great response. –This is the local station in the nyc area.

  10. Stuart says:

    M4.4 EQ reported near Aguanga, CA yesterday afternoon. Significant enough to be covered by local TV here in LA region.  Heavy thunderstorms reported in the same area this PM.

    Major seismic activity also reported past few days far north slope of eAK, near Arctic Ocean. Geoengineers trying to move cool arctic air (what's left of it) south?

    Sea Surface Temps as reported here near 80F now.  Lack of west winds/ upwelling given as one reason for warm water.  Can expect Geoengineers to CREATE or induce winds needed ro move cold water from ocean floor to surface as Engineered Ocean Cooldown.

  11. V. Susan Ferguson says:

    VSF:  We have very bad breathing conditions here on the once pristine Olympic Peninsula WA – and in Seattle they are again warning people to remain indoors. I look at the smoke and wonder what is in fact actually in it.  From my over 13,000 NASA Worldview screenshots, I have noted off the west coast months of repeated and similar patterns of aerosol spraying over the Pacific Ocean and bizarre radiation transmissions generating cloud forms that are obviously unnatural.  Along with whatever may be usual fire smoke particulates, how much aluminum, lithium, barium, fungal based nano-particles, etc. are in the air we are all breathing. I'm certain they are using the smoke for their geoengineering operations, Solar Radiation Management.

    Here is a good link for current air quality. Click on the Pacific Northwest.

    https://airnow.gov/

    • Paul Vonharnish says:

      Hello Susan:  Thanks for repeated efforts to alert reader's to smoke contaminants released by forest, residential, and industrial fires.  I considered posting a short list of common plastics under incendiary conditions, but the short list turned into over 40 items in no time at all.  Material safety data sheets would scare the hell out of most readers, so nah…

      From the article you cited: "Power – who has been wearing blue surgical masks and has been through numerous fires – said she feels "stuck inside" because she cannot expose herself to the smoke."

      I cringe when I see how completely clueless people are about these intense smoke conditions.  A blue surgical mask might reduce large particulates, but it's the micro-scale particulates and vapors that do the real damage.  I can't state the importance of proper filtration masks enough , so here it is again. > https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/geoengineering-watch-global-alert-news-june-23-2018-150/#comment-1092122 

      An activist that can no longer function without oxygen tank support, is (effectively) one less activist… Jus' sayin'

    • 'a' simple horseman says:

      VSF, thank you for contributing this chart of air quality in the PNW. I was not surprised to find that I live in the "red zone". Look at north central WA close to the BC border. Susan, be glad you are not in the red zone. All my mountains are but ghosts in the smoke. I do not have air conditioning so I must open my windows in the evening and leave them open all night to cool the cabin. It used to be a good plan, but now, Lord only knows what we here are breathing for weeks on end. "What I'd give for some of that rain you all in the east are receiving these days"…..

    • Dennie says:

      S. F. Bay Area air quality today was like breathing a slurry of toxic S.A.I./S.R.M. metals and ice nucleation garbage mixed with toxic smoke of incinerated buildings and their contents from the most populous areas of northern California.  You could definitely see what you were breathing here today.  

  12. V. Susan Ferguson says:

    Here's what smoke from the Carr Fire can mean for your health
    Aug.13, 2018
    "The thing for people to understand though, this isn't just the equivalent of being over a really big camp fire," Van Mol said. "This is enormous. So what has burned is not simply vegetation. It's all manner of man made product: plastics, treated lumber, other types of insulation materials."
    Van Mol said the toxicity is "rather difficult to predict" when it comes to long term consequences.  "Because you're breathing things that weren't meant to be breathed whatsoever in particulate form and it all depends on which way the wind is blowing," Van Mol said. 
    And the longer the smoke hangs in the air, the more it may trigger those with chronic pulmonary problems, Van Mol said.  Van Mol also noted that as people become accustomed to the smoke, they tend to start to ignore it.
    Limit outdoor exercise and activities to reduce exposure to smoke.
    Make sure air conditioner filters are in good shape and use the recirculation setting if possible. Use this mode in the car as well.
    Try to run swamp coolers when the outdoor concentrations of smoke are lower.
    If outside, wear masks.
    https://www.caller.com/story/news/2018/08/13/heres-what-smoke-carr-fire-can-mean-your-health/977566002/

  13. Paul Vonharnish says:

    A small amount of research yields the names of associated operatives and partners in crime.
    Facebook Taps Militarist Think Tank Atlantic Council to Police its Content (Pt 1/2)
    Published August 11, 2018
    https://therealnews.com/stories/facebook-taps-militarist-think-tank-atlantic-council-to-police-its-content-pt-1-2

    • Paul Vonharnish says:

      I figured these additional posts might fill in some more dots: >   At 2:40 into the presentation: "You're in a wonderful business."  Yes indeedy…

      How Israel Rules the World of Cyber Security | VICE on HBO Published on March 14, 2018

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca-C3voZwpM

      More names, places, dates, and companies that have no lawful (or rightful) place in a free America.  "Ladies and gentleman" who believe that they have a right to jab their mottled aspects into our lives, and ultimately; to dictate the course of our personal and collective histories, need to be "governed".  (As in throttled back…) 

      Tech’s Military Dilemma

      Silicon Valley’s emerging role in America’s forever war

      By Jacob Silverman

      August 7, 2018

      https://newrepublic.com/article/148870/techs-military-dilemma-silicon-valley

  14. Gary Morrow says:

    Does anyone have any current information on the state of Arctic sea ice.

    • Dane Wigington says:

      Hello, Gary, the link I have attached will provide some information, although the front-line conditions are generally worse than the blog discussion indecates. FYI https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php?board=3.0

  15. Jeanette S says:

    Has everyone heard about the red tide in FL? they have just declared a state emergency. way more animals dead on the shores than ever before. I had seen somewhere that red tide

  16. Joseph L says:

     

    Think 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018 Were Hot? New Study Warns Next Five Years Won't Be Any Better

     

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/08/14/think-2015-2016-2017-and-2018-were-hot-new-study-warns-next-five-years-wont-be-any

  17. Frank says:

    I'm just north of Philadelphia, and I rarely report on the weather, but I have a feeling we are crossing the line where the Geoengineers are losing control – losing the ability to make the weather look "reasonable" for NE USA. We are getting a lot of rain. I am lucky to be on high ground, but local reports show heavy flooding – cars floating away – and Google says the 13 inches of rain in July is a new record for July and the 3rd most in a month ever – and August seems worse – it seems like a SLOW HURRICANE.

    • Frank says:

      I have to reel this one back in a little. I said the Geoengineers were losing their control over the weather. Not just yet, because if you look at the 10-day forecast – it's still right on target. The thing now is that now when it says rain – you don't know how much you'll get!! – but the last 2 Augusts have been very wet, as they try to keep the hi-90's at bay.

    • Dennie says:

      It's my observation that it all depends on how you define the word "control."  If what we see happening with regard to the effects of the weather "gods' who've magically elected themselves to be "in control" of our weather, in reality THE ENTIRE WEATHER ON PLANET EARTH IS ACTUALLY MASSIVELY OUT OF CONTROL.  It is another example of how the Tavistock Demons, including our so-called "thinking," run the show due to our laziness and lack of vigilance over the past few hundreds or even thousands of years now.  The abnormal is now "normal," insanity is now "sanity," "peace" means war, etc.  The whole Shebang here on Earth would make much more sense if we could somehow get The Program to run upside down and backwards from where it is now.  That's what it's going to take to "right" itself.  It will mean a lot of awfully hard and long work on the part of those who are actually awake and have a heart left with which to care for what happens on, and to, Earth.

  18. V. Susan Ferguson says:

    Smoke, Aug.14, 2018 / The West Coast of North America

    https://go.nasa.gov/2MJRkuJ

  19. Virginia says:

    Another firefighter has lost his life.  He was fighting  in the Mendocino fire complex.   This is  the sixth fireman to lose his life fighting these devastating fires.  In my opinion, these are the real heroes….they risk their lives in beyond horrible conditions to protect us.  They realize the risks taken, but still carry on.  To all of them and their families, please accept my personal thank yous, as  inadequate as that sounds, for the sacrifices you are making.  And to those who have lost loved ones, I know there are no words that can help ease the pain.  Just know that we feel your loss and realize the enormity of what was sacrificed.  Blessings to you all.

    It seems to me that all who live in California and elsewhere, could think of some kind of special tribute to these men and their families.  If it entails a 'go fund me' or a written tribute of some kind….just anything that will show our appreciation.  Even a special section on this site dedicated to that purpose    I just feel it is time to say thank you in a special way, for they so sorely deserve it. Do any of you have a ideas?  Or opinions?

     

    • Dennie says:

      We've seen bill board thank-yous up and down U.S. 101 from Marin to Ukiah.  People have hung large home made banners across freeway overpass railings thanking the first responders and firefighters.  Their salaries are paid by our taxes.  This is the best example of what taxes are supposed to do for a society– pass the hat to pay these guys.  

    • Joseph L says:

      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/14/california-is-paying-inmates-1-an-hour-to-fight-wildfires.html

       

      California is paying inmates $1 an hour to fight wildfires

       

    • Dennie says:

      We have the usual municipal firefighters on the job with engines from many cities responding to fight fires in cities not their own.  We also have an inmate population doing the dirty work of fighting the wildlands fires, and now we have non-citizen Mexican immigrants coming here for work fighting these fires as well.

  20. V. Susan Ferguson says:

    VSF:  KOMO news in Seattle has told everyone in western Washington State, including the Olympic Peninsula where I live, to remain indoors. The smoke here is white, not brown.

    Researchers studying air quality in wildfire smoke
    Smoke from the wildfires raging across the West is reaching as far as the East Coast, according to the National Weather Service.  A team of scientists from five universities and a handful of federally funded agencies are flying a specially equipped plane through the plumes to do the most extensive anaylsis of wildfire smoke ever.  "We'll take this aircraft behind me as close as we can into fires as safety allows," according to principal investigator and Assistant Professor Emily Fischer, with Colorado State University. CSU is one of the institutions participating in the far-reaching study.
    "We're primarily looking at the smoke in the first day that it's in the atmosphere because there's a lot of interesting chemistry that will eventually determine the air quality and climate impact of that smoke," Fischer said.  The C-130 aircraft flies out of Boise, Idaho, because of that city's proximity to multiple fires. The plane's instruments pull the air in and generate information in real time about the composition of the smoke. Samples are also captured for later analysis in the lab.
    "What's different about this field campaign is just the extensive instrumentation that's on the plane," Fischer explained. "What we're doing is repeatedly sampling smoke under as many environmental conditions and fire types in as many takes as we can."  The information is badly needed, especially out west where a smoky haze has covered parts of several states all summer.  In Sacramento, one person complained to TV station KOVR that it feels, "A lot like allergies, my eyes are irritated, I feel like it's harder to breathe, all of my senses just kind of feel affected."
    Sutter Health emergency room doctor Adam Dougherty told the station, "It's a toxic exposure, it's like second-hand smoke everywhere.  I've definitely seen more pediatric airway issues things you would normally see in January in the middle of flu season."  Dr. Anthony Gerber at National Jewish Health in Denver said there's simply not enough known about what's in wildfire smoke to make precise predictions about how it will affect everyone.
    "The chemistry is complicated," said Gerber. "What's burning, is not the same. I mean, so not all forests are the same.  How much soil that becomes part of the particulate cloud is not the same. If it burns structures it's not the same and then as it moves and mixes with other pollutants, it can really change."  The researchers say while they may be flying into the smoke of an active fire, they are not there to battle it, and take precautions to stay out of the way of firefighting planes and crews.
    The team members said full results aren't expected for another year, but within the next three months they could have some unique insight.
    http://www.foxnews.com/science/2018/08/13/scientists-study-how-wildfire-smoke-affects-people-environment.html

    • Dennie says:

      Another side effect of massive wildfires:  Ammo going off in burning houses:  Press Democrat reporter Martin Espinosa left his Rincon Valley home and took his camcorder along to record the October 2017 fires from the Santa Rosa Kaiser Permanente medical facility, right next door to the Journey's End mobile home park that burned to the ground on Mendocino Avenue east of Coffey Park.  At 5:43 we're treated to a panoramic view of the massive fire from up on the second floor of the Kaiser parking structure and we hear reports of popping sounds heard from down at the Press Democrat building, which are also more clearly heard from the reporter's vantage point higher up on the parking structure.  At 6:08 we clearly see where the fire had jumped the freeway and you see flames burning west of Highway 101 into Coffey Park.  Starting at 9:52 you can hear pops and snaps that get louder and closer, and at 10:27 the reporter asks the neighbors who'd fled the mobile home park just what those explosions were.  The trailer park manager responds that this is ammunition that's been stored in people's homes, exploding in the fires: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL33Fs_Zatc  We've been hearing that Americans are armed to the teeth.  This proves it.

    • Dennie says:

      Correction:  Schmidt Firearms was in the 800 block of Piner Road in Santa Rosa.  The pops we hear in the video by Press Democrat reporter Martin Espinosa is the sound of ammunition going off in the burning store from the heat of the Tubbs Fire in Santa Rosa, CA on October 8-9, 2017.  In addition to thousands of homes, many businesses were also lost in the area, including 3 restaurants, a Chevron station, the Fountaingrove Inn, Hilton Sonoma Wine Country and the Best Value Inn and Suites, K-Mart and Furniture 2000.

    • BaneB says:

      Dennie:  Why only analyze just the smoke from these horrific fires.  They could fly through hundreds of geoengineered aerosol trails right above Boise.  They can do smoke.  They should also be reporting to us taxpayers about the extent of the crap in the fake "contrails."  Very smokey up here in central Mendocino this morning.  My sinuses are a wreck.  My eyes are a bit blurry, too.  I have already guessed the smoke is laced with toxins.  Every home that burns up is full of released plastic compounds.

    • Dennie says:

      I'm adding to the discussion about the overall effects of the fires.  The citizens who'd fled from Journey's End mobile home park out near Mendocino Avenue in Santa Rosa were heard saying that all the pops and bangs on raw video from Martin Espinosa's Press Democrat recording were coming from ammunition stored in the mobile homes exploding in the fire when in reality it was the ammo in Schmidt Firearms that we heard.  In any case, we now apparently have to beware of exploding ammo stored in burning buildings, whether that be commercial or residential.  That was my point.

      It's completely logical that anything that burns is going to go up into the already-toxic chemical stew known as S.A.G./S.A.I./S.R.M., no one here's doubting that.  When you talk to anyone at the Bay Area Air Quality Management District, they tell you that they only track the particulates from combustion.  As if somehow that's the only type of air pollution we have on this planet.  Just got a text from a Marin/Sonoma area activist and contributor who's also relaying word from another Sonoma area activist about how horrible the air seems, maybe the mix has changed.  I think they're pulverizing it even smaller and adding more of the burning cold stuff.  That's what I feel.  Feels like someone put a bunch of capsicaine in the air.  Eyes burning, throat clogged, nose and GI system/large intestine drying up.  Drink lots of water and soup.  I'm going to be doing acupressure on those lung/large intestine points, liver too, to help deal with the sh!t raining down on us 24/7/365.  

      Everyone:  Here is the $64BN Question:

      HOW DO WE "GET" AHOLD OF ALL OF THESE "BRILLIANT" CLIMATE SCIENTISTS, WHO ACTUALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THESE LARGE PLANETARY SYSTEMS, AND THE CORPORATE BANKSTERS FUNDING THE INSANITY, AND THEIR LITTLE MILITARY LAP-DOGS WHO ARE CARRYING OUT THEIR DIRTY WORK, MASS-MURDERING ALL OF LIFE ON EARTH?

  21. juli says:

    Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train 
    our character to be passive in its presence and thereby eventually lose all ability to defend ourselves and those we love. In a modern economy it is impossible to seal oneself off from injustice.

    If we have brains or courage, then we are blessed and called on not to frit these qualities away, standing agape at the ideas of others, winning pissing contests, improving the efficiencies of the neocorporate state, or immersing ourselves in obscuranta, but rather to prove the vigor of our talents against the strongest opponents of love we can find.

    If we can only live once, then let it be a daring adventure that draws on all our powers. Let it be with similar types whos hearts and heads we may be proud of. Let our grandchildren delight to find the start of our stories in their ears but the endings all around in their wandering eyes.
    The whole universe or the structure that perceives it is a worthy opponent, but try as I may I can not escape the sound of suffering. 

    Perhaps as an old man I will take great comfort in pottering around in a lab and gently talking to students in the summer evening and will accept suffering with insouciance. But not now; men in their prime, if they have convictions are tasked to act on them.
    Julian Assange

  22. Tanya says:

    Here is a video that discloses over 3000 mental health specialists are concerned about Trumps cognitive function. 

    https://youtu.be/6nhoGIvOKJU

  23. Black Cat Italy says:

    Dane, is the SRM particulates now so thick that it is blocking out the moon too?  We have not seen the moon for weeks!  I looked forward to seeing the Supermoon on 11th August – but there was NOTHING.  We go out in the garden at night and the sky appears clear with stars but no moon.  This is bizarre. Has anyone else noticed this?

  24. John Davis says:

    Hi Dane and All,

    Firstly my heartfelt, deep and sincere gratitude to you Dane, for all your work, your research and your courage, and also on a personal level the information you present was and is an absolutely fundamental part of my awakening, and since becoming aware i have consistently tried to  raise awareness of geoengineering here in the UK.

    I heed your words Dane, we all need to be more active activists, a like, a share and a comment on Facebook though important, doesn't cut it anymore, more needs to be done! So to this end i have now printed a 1,000 A5 flyers (blown up from your excellent business card on this site) and will distributing around my local area, then ordering more and repeating this process. I would show you the picture but understandably the site will not allow me to upload it.

    Anyway, rest assured friends action is being taken on multiple levels globally, no one is alone in this fight!

    Best Wishes

    John

    • simone says:

      Endless Thanks John Davis, for all your super-active work for the sake of our chance to survive in this bleeding and overclouded by all sorts of deadly poisons human society!!

  25. Dennie Mehocich says:

    Russia Is Our Friend:  "When Russia gave the United States a memorial in sorrow for the victims of 9/11, the United States practically hid it, and reported on it so little that most people don’t know it exists or believe it’s a false story.

    When Russia has proposed to make treaties on weapons in space or cyber war or nuclear missiles, the United States has regularly rejected such moves. Russia’s advocacy for the Iran agreement meant nothing. Obama and Trump have expelled Russian diplomats. Obama helped facilitate a coup in Ukraine. Trump has begun weapons shipments to the coup government, which includes Nazis. Obama tried to facilitate an overthrow in Syria. Trump escalated the bombings, even hitting Russian troops. Trump accuses Russia — the one allied power not still occupying Germany — of dominating Germany, while trying to prevent Russia from selling its fossil fuels.

    Russia is accused, and found guilty prior to convincing evidence, of shooting down an airplane, of “aggressively” flying near U.S. planes on Russia’s borders, of “conquering” Crimea through a popular vote, of poisoning people in England, of torturing and murdering a man in prison, and of course of “hacking” an election — an accusation which, if evidence is ever produced for it, will amount to far less than Israel does in the United States or than the United States does in many countries. Through all of these accusations it is not uncommon for the Russians to be referred to as “the commies,” despite the demise of communism.

    What, you may ask, does any of this have to do with Russia being a friend? Simply this: nobody other than a friend would put up with this shit."

    [source article:] https://worldbeyondwar.org/russia-is-our-friend/

    David Swanson is the director of World Beyond War

    • Frank says:

      I think the US demonization of Russia is disgusting. We never get to see Putin actually speak.The times I have seen his words he seems to be the complete opposite of what we are told here. He seems to be the introspective type, not giving the expected reaction when we push him further and further into a corner with our NATO missiles. And as he waits for the US to "come to its senses," we pile on the sanctions (acts of war in the old days).based on lies. He may have a long wait.

    • Hello Dennie Mehocich:  I agree.  The media's portrait of Russia as an enemy is a sham, and the outcome of our "elections" is an even greater sham.  The voting machines are rigged, and so is our electoral college.

      Randy Neman says it all right here: >

      Randy Newman – Political Science (Let's Drop the Big One Now) – YouTube

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqBrw3rQvKo

    • Laura says:

      You at so right on. 

    • BaneB says:

      Dennis:  Russia and the United States have a great deal in common.  But a certain Middle East power is directing the storm, bleeding our nation dry of wealth, power, and blood.  The Russia non-issue in Washington is a scheme to force Russia away from Syria and Iran.  Russia is the fly in the ointment.  The sane bunch who brought us the debacles in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, and now Yemen and the Sudan are the Neocons.  These rabid zealots are responsible for the entire blundering foreign policy debacle in the ME.  They are the schemers behind the so-called Russia-Gate ship wreck.  I really do believe these crazies would unleash WW3 if it could serve the interests of the terrorists in power in Israel.  

  26. Dennie Mehocich says:

    Lest anyone want to try to state that this site is just a "hamster wheel," here are links to some very good observations of the link between climate destruction and wars:  https://www.commondreams.org/views/2018/07/31/climate-worst-casualty-war

    and a link to a site where you can get involved in getting military bases CLOSED:  https://worldbeyondwar.org/bases/?link_id=17&can_id=b3c408e774d94969178f674fa2beee5a&source=email-wbw-news-open-this-video-close-these-bases&email_referrer=email_399880&email_subject=wbw-news-open-this-video-close-these-bases 

    FYI:  I HAVE NOT "VETTED" THE ORGANIZATION OR THE PEOPLE BEHIND "WORLD BEYOND WAR."

  27. Kathy says:

    Spot on Pete, we are all in this together and so true on everything you said.

    Puyallup Farmers market progress– Well, we made through a very HOT ice nucleated cool down aka "summer storm"?  What was suppose to be T-storms over, thankfully didnt happen but Bursts of big rain (the first in several months), wind, HOT sun, HAIL, cold air with the bursts of moisture then burning hot sun.Vendors put up their side walls on the tents and just as quickly took them off.  Thus our market day was a very slow one. Slow for this market that is. However it was still worth every person who came to talk to us! EVEN 2 MORE vendors! 

    Highlights:

    #1- Truck driver who saw horizon to horizon trails in every state. Looked up "Chemtrails" saw what it stated and knew it was a lie because what he saw with his own eyes didnt dissipate. He was so smart and awesome to talk to. He connected all the dots including health. Just need to see real time efforts and get material in his hands.

    #2- A veteran totally aware and needed credible info. Thanked us for being out there.

    #3- A young man so grateful to get verifiable info into his hands after feeling crazy and trying his best to tell his friends etc what he sees. He was so happy to see us there.

    #4-A couple in their 60's who knows about Geoengineering, had listened to Dane before, try to tell friends etc.. was elated to see us there physically representing and speaking with people. They took info and learned a lot more.

    Over and over and over, people are so grateful to get Facts into their hands. Moreover to see a booth or  sign"s" on the sore subject that is dividing their family and friends. We never fail to get material into the hands of those involved or who know someone involved in one way or another. Many do walk on by as I have stated before but not without exposure! Or hearing us talk to others. Its just the best feeling of accomplishment at the end of each market no matter.

  28. Kanji says:

    I'm a snowboarder in rural South Central Alaska & the previous 4 winters have been so bad for snowboarding conditions that I can't believe it. I was born here 42 yrs ago. We had a daily high temp' in the middle of winter, mid-January (52), that was higher than a daily high in the middle of summer, mid-July (50). It's really weird & I'm losing hope for my love of snow. In winter it goes from being warm & wet to dry & cold with no in-between. And the summer is cool & almost non-existent & the spring & fall are way stretched out. Like it's being equalized. Also, last year there was a day where the raining temperature in town should have been snow in the mountains for sure, but it was a weird glaze to the top of the mtns from a weird misty rain. Anyways, I'm blown away at the weird weather & little snow.

    • BaneB says:

      Kanji:  I was looking at the Ketchikan KPU Weather Cams yesterday.  Very beautifully situated for panoramic views and close ups of the town and surrounding landscapes.  Deer Mountains looks like there are lots of dead trees.  What is the state of the forests in your area?

  29. Roger Truth says:

    THE Phoenix valley area has geoengineering on a daily baisis.

    • Bonnie Crawford says:

      Roger, North Mississippi and Memphis seem to have it on a daily basis too. I'm assuming that it is done daily everywhere. Not certain, but from many comments I've read from over the U.S. and other countries, it seems that way.

  30. Heidi says:

    Thanks, Dane.

    The preservation of the means of knowledge among the lowest ranks is of more importance to the public than all the property of all the rich men in the country – John Adams, 1775

  31. Heidi says:

    Thanks, Dane.

    True then, true now:

    The preservation of the means of knowledge among the lowest ranks is of more importance to the public than all the property of all the rich men in the country – John Adams, 1775

  32. Pete says:

    An insightful watch to see a lot of recent devastation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8zMelOy9hA

  33. Pete says:

    Firstly another great report Dane and to all of you out there, if you happen to read this and doubt this man then please take a few moments to reflect. With so much going on over there right now with fires still raging, the event that was recently canceled and everything this remarkable man puts into this all so important and absolutely undeniable insanity awareness, and the fact that his home could become in danger, what he has sacrificed, the knowledge he has, the viable truth he tells better than anyone, never getting involved in ridiculous claims but finds the time still to reply to people and always thanks them too, not to mention helping people like me to re-focus and think again. – can you have any doubt?

    I had a day to deal with when people I know, inc family, decided to start something on FB behind my back where they all slated me and called me crazy etc…  shame on them and shame on anyone now who has been made aware but refuses to investigate.I have managed to rise above, with some help from true friends and has made me even stronger..

    That's what it's all about, whatever we have to deal with, in such times requires determination of the spirit within us all.

    This is my only mission, my only goal that matters and for that I give so much thanks to you Dane and know many of us are in your corner and we will never give in…

    • Dane Wigington says:

      Thank you for your support in this battle, Pete, it is all of us standing together that can yet make a difference.

    • Steven Chamberlain says:

      Hello Pete, Dane built his home to be fire resistant. A few years ago while attending one of Dane's presentations, he invited up to his home on the mountain. We climbed up on his tile roof to enjoy the view and assess the damage to the forest. He showed me the damage to the glaze on the tile from the extreme UV radiation. Although no structure is completely safe from the fires, I'm sure Dane's stucco sided tile roof home will be safe. I'm sure he would fight and win against any fire that comes his way. I will continue to pray for Dane's and his families safety from the fires.

      Never, Ever, Give Up!!!

    • Jeanette S says:

      HI Pete, well you can count me in on being crazy too as I saw and know first hand what dane is saying is true. I was on the freeway in traffic and one of those silver planes came from nowhere right over everyones heads and when right over the  the freeway went perpendicular to the earth and turned on all four barrels of that billowing and wide spreading crap. we were in this white air. the sun was setting and it looked like one of the Iro Jima films of the sun setting in the bomb radiation. the sunset was shimmering that day too. the shimmering is caused by only one thing, I;d say, metallic particles. dane is telling us the truth.

  34. 'a' simple horseman says:

    Dane, thank you for making the time to record this weeks broadcast. I know full well you are up to your neck in fires and fire prevention tasks. Things to do with those fires won't be over for over a month or more. Then comes the timber salvage endeavors. I was amazed what they stole from the forest lands here 3 years ago after the Okanogan complex fire(330,000 acres).

    To ALL, This weeks farmers market geoengineeringwatch.org awareness booth was a scorcher! 104, in the shade. The UV was off the charts. It's not hard to tell. For most of the day today, visibility has been about a half mile due to the smoke from the BC fires. I am 20 miles south of the BC border. For over a week visibility has ranged from 1 to 5 miles. They stopped the wind last night and chemically nucleated the moisture that they floated in from the coast. The temps dropped 20 degrees and stayed that way all day. At mid morning the sky looked as if someone had rolled over it with a gray paint roller over glass. I call it a plasma gray out. The the winds started back up and down from BC came the smoke that had been holding up there. Air quality?, what air quality? Tell ya something that seriously pisses me off, the same people that control geo engineering are the same ones making money fighting these fires. I'm doing my best to help folks realize the first dot so they can connect it with the second dot. Around here, fire fighting has cost the tax payers dearly. I know several folks that have re-built after the fires and many that just up and left. On that note, I'll end with this. An old dog musher friend of mine lives over the mountain from me. He "had" the off grid cabin from heaven. Built it with his own two hands. It was absolutely beautiful sitting on the top side slope of Tunk mountain. One thing he did not do was fire prevention. I am told there wasn't even a stick left. 20 years of a yacht builders labor gone in hours. He didn't have a plan. My friends, I hope all of you have a plan for what ever may come your way. When the "fire" comes, it's to late.

    Love and strength to ALL, 'a' simple horseamn

    • BC says:

      Being prepared is something I have been trying to do but the whiplash scenarios that have plagued our remote area here in central BC never seem to stop. But I hear you S.H. This past winter we had a winter that wouldn't end that snowed us in, at one point, for two and a half months. Feet of plastic snow. When Spring didn't come, summer did….in twenty four hours and the temperature went from 20F to 75F. The ice on the river going through the property was still 20 inches thick which was buried under four feet of raging water until the ice rose in great dams and lodged against the bridge crossing to the hay fields. The flood that followed was for the record books and breached the bank in numerous spots and eroded much of the diking. After little rain and now no rain and soaring temps for weeks came the dry lightening storms that have set the province on fire. Fire is now burning along the south property line. Closest neighbor three miles away is surrounded by fire but fortunately he is very prepared and has access to lots of water. We are under an evacuation order so the family had to leave. Put them on Quads to get to the other side of the mountain where they would be safe. Got a call from the RCMPolice the other day. "Bad news, You are on your own". No help, no wildfire crews, choppers, no fire pumps, no sprinkler systems, nada! No resources left to help you, GOOD LUCK! The nanny state has failed you. See friends, what it has come to? They have created a system where the state makes every decision in our lives. The laws empower the state over you to baby sit us from birth till death. When disaster happens, no worries, we are here to help you. Until they can't! What we are seeing is the system breaking, ripping and tearing at the seams. Whether intentional as it seems or not really doesn't matter at a personal level. When it happens, it happens! Now folks what are you going to do? Well there's community. No there isn't. Society is broken. "Hey mom, the evening news is on, they say the neighbors are being burned out, hey don't take all the popcorn". Sound callous? Cynical? For sure! But that's what it's come to. The deep state is trying to destroy us and the public resources aren't going to be there when you need it. Everybody else is too brainwashed by the nanny state to believe they don't have a part to play in helping one another. No matter how hard done by I feel in my present situation I'd rather be here then herded into a city when disaster strikes. Fire, flood, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornados, crop failures, food and water shortages,No phones or internet, bank holidays and bailins, failed pensions, no fuel, lawlessness and anarchy. Yes LBJ, he who controls the weather controls the world. Agenda 2030 here we come! So I have been buying used fire pumps and hose from the gov. auctions and have been preparing for other such events and very glad I have. I expect to be here this time next year. What about you my friends? I'm not a doomer. I'm a realist. It's not a someday thing. It's already here and getting exponentially worse by the day. Be proactive, Build a local community, pull together, plan for the worst, share resources, DO IT NOW! Yes, as S.H. says; "Have a plan".

      BC

       

    • BaneB says:

      BC:  Your post riveted me to every word.  Thanks for a great descriptive report from your region to the north of me.  I too have been informed I am on my own up here.  The dry situation is so volatile that my mountain is not a mountain but a huge "hay stack" upon which my little paradise could go poof.  There will be no rain here until October.  But the geoengineers might decide to wait until December.  A bunch of capricious terrorists…..they have the power to play God.

      'a' simple horseman:  My plan is to run like hell.  There are three twisty dirt roads out of here, southeast, west,  and north.  All of them through very dry flammable forests and unmowed dry meadows.  I do have a bolt hole that is almost finished.  That is a last resort.  Of course the crucial factor is making the right decisions under stress.  Should this mountain top be turned into charcoal, I still own it.  And while it will not be probable to rebuild as it is now, the land will be here.  Spring will arrive again.  Hope springs eternal where dwells the human spirit.  We have but one choice….carry on!

       

    • 'a' simple horseman says:

      BC, my friend to the north. I am seriously taken back by your contribution. Wow, a flood running over the top of a still frozen river bed. Ice is quite a force to be recond with, especially when it's not in progression with the seasons. What it must be like to be staring down the barrel of a wild fire. Send the family to safety and stand your ground. Well done my friend with a well thought out plan. Unfortunately my plan does not get to have water as a factor. I have to encourage the fire to "flash through" and move on quickly in any direction the wind blows. There won't be a flame higher than a foot within 30 feet of the cabin. All the trees are limbed way up. The fire will stay on the ground 200 feet or more from the cabin, by design. I won't be here when the fire rolls through, but this time, I know I will come back to a burnt forest and a cabin to watch it from. Here I stand and here I will prevail or die trying. The grass is not greener on the other side of the "fence".

    • Dennie Mehocich says:

      @BaneB:  I was up in Mendo County towards the end of July.  It was 97 up there on Thurs. 7/19 and again on Sat. 7/21, the date of the fundraiser at the Nelson Family Vineyards in Hopland.  Musta been even hotter in the parking lot at Mendo J.C. at 2 in the afternoon because it felt like I was literally being roasted alive in an oven when I got in my car to drive north to my hostess's house in Redwood Valley, just south of the ridge where the Redwood Fire burned last year.  At that time a lot of houses in the northern part of the town had to evacuate .  A lot of houses burned to the ground in the area of the headwaters of the Russian River but the two monasteries survived.  My hostess was telling me how they got the reverse 9-1-1 call at 2 a.m., getting their car and two pickups shuttled out of there, packing clothes they'd need for a while, mementos and photos plus the dog and the dog's things and dog's food.  The cat was left to fend for itself but was okay when they returned home after several days.  I can't imagine.  Right after she finished telling me this story we had to go down to Hopland for a 5 p.m. sound check.  When I opened the door to go outside I got hit with a wall of choking smoke– a fire had broken out right across the freeway! They got it out but the air smelled like ash when we got back after playing the show around 10:00.  

      There was the Mt. Vision fire that burned Inverness in Point Reyes, caused by four stupid kids who illegally camped back in 1995.  It destroyed 45 homes.  The kids, all minors, were shielded from the disaster and never had to pay a nickel or so much as even one minute of time for their idiocy– "Only in Marin," as they say… I guess:  https://www.ptreyeslight.com/article/mount-vision-fire-what-happened

    • Bonnie Crawford says:

      Steven Chamberlain, how wonderful that you were able to visit Dane's home. So glad it is fireproof too.  I've read a good bit about hemp over the last year and learned that one can build a house with hempcrete! It's stronger than concrete, is also fireproof and is bug proof as well.  Hemp has many good uses, even cleaning oil up from our polluted oceans. Wish so much that it was not illegal to use in many places. And to 'a' simple horseman, very sorry for your friend's loss of his cabin. Such a sad loss!

    • Mary Hollowell says:

      I've been in the smoke.  This is heartbreaking!  – trying to stay informed, online, and keeping residents & firefighters in my prayers

  35. lee says:

    2 important points for dane.  When about 1 thousand or so people were about to attend the 2018 geoengineering show and tell in Redding CA, the town almost burns up. To your knowledge is this legit? point 2, Cal fire has had in the preceding years extorted tax money from CA landowners.  This year we the northern California landowners have received no bill yet.  What gives brother??

    • BaneB says:

      Lee:  Regarding Point 2:

      As I understand it….. about six years ago the majority party in Sacramento voted to impose a "fee" on rural homeowners who reside in the forests.  Basically a annual "property tax" of $150 on about 800,000 of us.  I have paid out close to $1,000.  And have received nothing for my money.  The "program" run by a private consulting company located in Fairfield collected an annual fee of about $3,000,000.  Most of the funds went into (you guessed it) GRANTS.  Cal Fire had little to nothing to do with this end run on my wallet.  Had the fee been slated for Cal Fire for actual physical fighting of fires but it was to run a program for how to maintain one's property free of flammable brush.  I never saw anyone up here teaching me. Of course I do my brush removal anyway.  We all pay into the general fund via our various state taxes.  That is from where the monies are derived to fight fires.  Anyway, I digress.  I just learned last week that the "rural tax" extortion program has been canceled.  I think due to legalities.  Naturally I want my money returned.  Nope, they will not return it.

       

    • Little Jamulian says:

      BaneB:  I used too get slapped with this “fee” as well and was wondering where these people are, helping me weed-whack and cutting out dead brush, while they would educate me how to maintain my property.  And sarcasm off.  But I paid that stupid bill under protest – crossed out fee and wrote in tax.  Not that this would have made any difference.  But anyway, I think the tax got repealed by the legislature, after the democrats offered it as a bargaining chip to entice republicans to…wait for it….help pass an extension of the state’s cap-and-trade climate program.  Either or, what a fraud!

    • Dennie says:

      @ BaneB:  Yes, the taxpayers' associations pretty much screamed when these "fees" and others were levied on folks in unincorporated Marin and rural areas.  This year I got a mailer from the fire safety inspection dept. that our properties would be inspected for compliance with regard to "defensible" space.  But after watching these intense wildfires driven by the anomalous high winds provided by geoengineering, as well as the explosive nature of nanoparticulate aluminum powder with which we're being inundated day and night, I see there is really no such thing as "defensible" space.  We were all treated to this video posted to YouTube of the K-Mart burning to the ground in the Coffey Park area of Santa Rosa, complete with it's very large defensible space, a.k.a. paved parking lot, that surrounded it.  Fat lot of good that did.  The entire very large commercial building was fully involved in that video– far past the point of being saved, which is why "they don't seem like to be in hurry (the FD), they don't seem to be like in any hurry at all (to put it out), I think they'd rather see the f****n place burn to the ground… I don't blame 'em– look at that f****n thing over there…. (video shows the entire building fully involved, engulfed by massive 75-100 ft. white-hot and bright orange flames burning it to the ground). Another huge section just collapsed– the entire place, the entire store is gone, the entire store is just toast:"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ6hvoZjqcU

  36. Randy says:

    The ignorance of the folks whom would believe the fires are caused by the idea of there being to many trees in the forest narrative can only be summed up one way…

    …they are so ignorant, they cannot SEE the forest for the trees.

     

     

  37. J. MILLER says:

    The core root cause of where this began, is the DC Organic Act of 1871, when the Sovereign Democracy of the United States of America, was dissolved. In a Democracy, THE PEOPLE ARE THE SOVEREIGN RULE. We are no longer Sovereign, the United States was bankrupt from the Revolutionary War and Civil War . When WW1 came along, the USA was already tied to the League of Nations.The League of Nations was created and so was the World Bank. Then came the biggest land grab and oppression in the history of the world- all the Native American Treaties. Once they had the Natives under control, the World Bank financed WW1, causing the Depression. After the Depression, 1933, Roosevelt was placed in office, in March, he closed the government and the banks for 4 days – the nation was in bankruptcy. When government opened bank up, all of a sudden Roosevelt had plans for spending all kinds of money the USA DID NOT HAVE. The loans they recieved, were financed by using the National Parks as collateral. And that us only the beginning of how we got here 

  38. Frank says:

    Recently I've been to some other anti-geoengineering websites and all I can say is, "It's good to be back in Kansas." We don't realize the tremendous perceptiveness and intelligence it takes to keep this train from jumping the rails from sensationalism, chaotic emotions, and just plain divisiveness.Three cheers to Dane for taking on literally the hardest job in the world and making it look easy.

  39. Bonnie Crawford says:

    Other than not correctly addressing climate engineering, this was a very good article from Counter Punch.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/08/10/dying-of-consumption-while-guzzling-snake-oil-a-realists-perspective-on-the-environmental-crisis/

     

  40. Gail ~ Yellowhead County Alberta ~ says:

    53 days into Summer in Alberta & we have had in our area:    18 days with a canopy + 9 days, a canopy with rain.  13 cloudy days + 6 cloudy days with rain.  And for 7 days we have had a pale blue sky with each one of these 7 days, jets were seen flying throughout the day & creating a lighter sky until it was white.    ~ A canopy has no definition & a cloudy day has body to the sky~   Here comes another jet, How many hundreds a day? What will this one spray? It was 10C(50F) @ 7am & it hadn't budged a degree by 12 pm. At 2 it is finally at 15C(59F)It feels cold. Our Green houses are at the same ambient temperature with Zero solar warming! My fingers turned numb while outside cleaning Bird feeders. Again! There is always some excuse to the weather. It's cloudy because it's going to rain, possibility of thunder showers, The clouds are due to wildfire smoke. Although it looks exactly the same as it did yesterday when you said it might rain! Then of course for the "7 months" we had snow,  snow was a possibility. They always have it covered. The sky is cloudy because…What kind of ignorance is this? I am so tired of this ice nucleated crap. Who can enjoy themselves in this? Every weekend is BLAH!  Strong winds during any pale blue sky hours of a day. Got to ruin any moment of enjoyment, they do.  Who wants to be out in this Shit? Family get togethers? Get out of here!    How many times can a Man turn his head & pretend he just doesn't see?  When you truly see the sky & know that it is toxic poisons being sprayed on you, your family & the entire web of life, you would have to be touched in the head to ignore the truth. You should be pissed off! You should demand answers. Action to this madness. Because, No one is interested in something you didn't do! And God knows Complacency will get us no where!  It's time for all of this to end. We are in need of groups of people standing up for Life. Groups like Dane spoke of, Military, Musicians, & Environmental groups. We can't count on the Scientists, that's become clear.  I pray that mankind finds the courage & concern that is needed at this late hour. Cause we need that now more then ever.                  Please Help Us!

  41. Josh says:

    Here in Colorado we have had two tornados in the mountains this year. 

    The first was in steamboat second was in Fair Play right  next to a large fire as well.  (Westin pass fire) There have never been tornadoes in the mountains of Colorado!  They do not form until the once upon a time thunderstorms hit the eastern plains.  

    Odd this year with all the fires and all the "haze" I do not smell smoke or smell it very rarely. There are fires all  surrounding where I live and in recent years you can smell smoke from fires that were hundreds to thousands of miles away. 

    Also with as many fires going on there should be an exceptional amount of ash that settles on table surfaces.  There is almost none. 

    It seems like the ash from the fire is being migrated and possibly utilized for climate operations. Also seems to be working effectively to keep the population oblivious that the forest is in flames. 

     

  42. mara says:

    I have a theory about why they are igniting forests all over the world. It's about the smoke and Ash that goes up in the atmosphere to create an artificial cooling, just like in that famous volcano erruption that cooled the climate (forgot the name of the volcano, sorry).  There is an article about a doctor David Travis in Europe around 2003 who said that cleaner air could mean even faster warming, cause when Europe cut down pollution, by 2003 a terrible heatwave came.  This "scientist" is convinced pollution is good against global warming, cause it causes global dimming by clouds forming around the smoke particles.

    So basically Forrest fires are not terrorism at all, not about driving away people from their homes, these are just consequences. The real purpose is smoke Ash pollution which creates clouds and global dimming and cooling.  Probably all forests will burn cause these psychopats plan to prolong the climate agony by burning down everything.

    • BaneB says:

      mara:  Your astute observation reminds me of the sick situation during the US aggression upon the Vietnam rice and straw culture almost five decades ago.  Villages were populated by simple farmers, their families, and water buffalo…those creatures being their "heavy equipment."  Naturally there would be those therein who opposed the US invasion.  So, to root out these nationalist sympathizers the village would be attacked by US forces from ground and air.  This was done to save the village from the Viet "troublemakers."  Of course the village and its inhabitants and the water buffalo were wiped off the face of the earth. Hence the phrase "in order to save the village you have to destroy it."  The earth is that "village" I suspect.  You might well be onto something even though logic as we understand it suggests the perps are completely mad.  Included in the madness is the hint of desperation.  Are events and the state of the environment so far gone that such a desperate measure (deliberately burning forests by way of drought) would be an option?  Logic is an interesting term.  Perhaps like 'beauty' logic exists only in the eye of the beholder….which is to say in your scenario the geoengineer-terrorists decide the definition. 

       

    • Dennie Mehocich says:

      No, there actually IS a real definition of beauty having to do with proportion and symmetry.  These military a$$holes are simply full of self-hatred that is projected onto everyone and everything else, as well as suicidal and homicidal.  They actually have a death wish.  And it looks like they want to take everyone down with them.

  43. Sandy Patrus says:

    Hi Dane, I am going to start off by saying great report once again and thank you for all that you do.  I want to order your pamphlets so that when I talk about this I have something to back me up.  I just wanted to add… on the day that 9/11 occurred I knew there was something that was not adding up and kept seeing discrepancies in the way it was reported throughout the day.  I knew that day it did not happen the way they said it did, but try telling anyone that and you are met with much resistance.  Let's just say I seem to have this 6th sense that tells me when things don't add up, I am usually correct in the end, but most people think I am crazy and don't listen to me.  I try to spread the word but wonder if I am getting people to do a little thinking of walk away thinking I am crazy and that is why I need to order those pamphlets.

  44. Bonnie Crawford says:

    I've watched in horror the past several decades as each administration does just the OPPOSITE of what needed to be done regarding the environment, animal welfare, and caring for the people of this earth. It did not have to happen, but evil seems to have taken over. I keep wondering that MAYBE this corrupt power structure will stop harming our planet at the 11th hour when they realize they are killing themselves and their families too. I do know this: people, animals (who had nothing to do with this destruction), and our environment — the innocents — don't deserve extinction. Those in power are apparently not the brightest beings, and such stupidity is hard to comprehend. Thank you to Dane and others who are trying to wake up a sleeping population.

    • Dennie Mehocich says:

      My feeling is that it's going to take the retired brass and possibly other active duty military that knows what's going on, and who's doing it, to stop the insanity.  I'm more than appalled at the military in California actually getting away with murder, attacking our state, and the rest of the bastards housed on bases in other states adding to the murder-fest of the entire Western region with their damned toxic spraying and frequency bullshit.  I know that John Wesley Powell said in his national geographic survey of the west that there isn't enough rainfall west of the 100th meridian to support large populations but these military A-holes don't have to go adding to the misery.  I do not know what or who is going to be able to stop the bastards.  For starters their mothers raised them all wrong.

  45. alan wilson says:

    Part of an article from Accuweather.com appearing this morning – 

    "Any hope of lasting relief from fire weather by way of rain and lower temperatures is months away for much of California.

    The two key ingredients for fire weather in California, heat and dryness, will continue in the weeks ahead.

    Weather pattern to stay locked in for the long haul

    Other than a fluctuating sea breeze along the California coast that may alter temperature and humidity levels a bit, people in the region should not expect any blasts of cool air or widespread drenching rainfall any time soon in the southwestern corner of the nation."

    Raising the obvious the question – How do they know?  

    • BaneB says:

      Alan:  They "know" because Raytheon does the weather modeling for the ​National Weather Service.  Raytheon is the Pentagon's golden child.  Ray of God is their own definition.  And they plan to keep California hot, dry, and on fire.  

  46. CP says:

    The fact of the matter is, the governments and central banker puppets around the world CAN'T STOP THIS MADNESS at this point.  I believe we have gone a bridge too far in playing GOD.  No turning back.  We have two choices:  1)  die from the disease  2) die from 'their' cure.  I certainly agree every man, woman, and child deserves to know what has been done to them, and while it will be a victory to finally expose the many decades of climate engineering, it will ring hollow as we all suffer an inevitable collapse.  The question now, how many can survive this coming catastrophe and go on to reclaim sustainable life on earth?  1 million?  10 million??   100 million??  1 billion??   Thank you Dane for your tireless efforts.  Good luck to all who are awake.

  47. Robert Harris says:

    Thank you Dane! Once again….Absolutely devastating reality report on this planet.Check here newcomers for visual confirmation:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k8zMelOy9hA&t=633s

    This is certainly the most important site I go to every week to learn the truth of the satanic agenda currently ruling planet earth. And with deepest gratitude to the weekly commentors like VSF Susan, Paul, Pedro, Marc, Dennie….all of you…I learn SO MUCH from your links and your insights.

     

     

  48. Star Messenger says:

    Dane, in reply to your statement that the Redding Police Chief did know the cause for the Carr Fire's intensity even though he said he did not know publicly, I suspected that he indeed did know but for various reasons didn't want to get into it because it is not an easy question to answer "on the fly" and because he was "up to his ears" in everything else he had to deal with that day when he was asked that question.  But he was cool… 

  49. Laura Sutton says:

    I want to say that in my opinion, the people on this planet that are aware of the dire implications of geoengineering are the smartest people on the planet.   Use that to fuel yourselves please.   

  50. Star Messenger says:

    Dane, I just finished listening to your latest installment of GeoWatch G.A.N.  If I didn't know better I would think that you were writing the script to a Black Comedy with all the dire warnings from various sources you quoted from.  I mean, how bad do things have to get before the obvious cannot be avoided any longer?  You don't have to answer that question because the answer is becoming quite clear.  "Terminal" is the answer, which means it will be too late by the time the general public awakens. 

    Everyone in "Officialdom" is afraid to be the first to speak out – unless they are retired and have nothing left to lose, then they will speak.  The world is turning a "blind eye" to all the bad news that seems to be coming from every direction.  The really bad news is being censored by the 5 or 6 news conglomerates that control the news in the U. S.  But even when horror stories like "500,000 people dead from the Syrian civil war" becomes public no one seems to care beyond saying, "That's unfortunate", then go back to drinking their Latte.  And when Madeline Albright says that "the price was worth it" when 500,000 children under the age of five were killed as the results of sanctions against the Saddam Hussein regime no one seems to even wince.  And we are THE democracy of the world.   But the truth is, the U. S. and Great Britain are the biggest terrorist nations on the planet!  

    • Jeffrey E Fish says:

      You are so right. There is the America that is of the people and loving.  Then there is the America that these places around the world see and hate as it take what it wants from them.

    • Bonnie Crawford says:

      Star Messenger, I would have to include Israel in that list with the U.K. and the U.S.

    • Sandy Patrus says:

      Star Messenger, my 41 year old daughter knows that geoengineering is taking place but does not want to know the consequences.  She won't allow me to play any of Dane's Global Alert News broadcasts while my 7 year old granddaughter is in the room.  She told me that at the school where I pick up my granddaughter a couple days a week, I am known as the crazy chemtrail granny among the mothers there with whom I try to talk to about all the spraying.  This is embarrassing to her I am told.  This makes me very angry that these young mothers, including my daughter, would not want to know what they are spraying…and how it is affecting the health of their children.  I just can't comprehend this.

    • Dane Wigington says:

      Hello, Sandy, thank you so much for your courage with pressing on in this battle in spite of the resistance from those who are not yet willing to face reality. For the record, you are the one that is sane and looking through a clear lense (as you must know). All will be forced to wake soon, denial will no longer provied any refuge. Again, Sandy, my deepest gratitude to you and all other activists / individuals that are doing their best to sound the alarm.

    • Sandy Patrus says:

      Thanks Dane…I try…and if I was physically able to do more I would.  Are you selling the t-shirts yet?  My granddaughter who starts high school this year said she would wear one and rock it.  She is the only one in the family who totally believes everything I tell her…the rest just kind of make fun me.

    • Dane Wigington says:

      Hello, Sandy, please thank your granddaughter for me. I appologize that due to the fires and the various challenges that has caused us, we do not yet have GeoengineeringWatch.org shirts available. Hope to have them soon, thank you for your patience.

  51. Dawnski says:

    So today at the gym I see this news story about an alleged dude who took a passenger airplane all the way to the take off ramp and succeeded in taking off without any attempts to block said theft of an enormous object in broad daylight and alleged thief went up in the air and did loop de loops until he allegedly crashed as two military jets tagged along. . . .not buying it. That and the Accuweather "Did you Know" feature I came across this morning that showed a geoengineering plane spraying but the text said it was contrails. Mother said you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. . . . Having me met a retired Control Tower employee who had many interesting stories to tell and who lived in a home that did not have one single open window God only knows what he witnessed in that tower.

  52. Paul Vonharnish says:

    I pulled this bit from the thick soup and residues of the article cited, but recommend reading the entire transcript. The author sounds flippant and bored about the fact that these budget items are bankrupting both the American people and the entire environment. >

    Militarizing Space: Starship Troopers, Same as It Ever Was

    "Today, astronauts and NASA are not needed to advance the militarization of space to the next frontier: we have the Pentagon’s secret space drone (known as the X-37B) that has circled the earth with minimal public interest, undertaking secret missions. Well before Trump did his publicity stunt announcing his comic book “Space Force,” the Department of Defense built its own space program—benefitting directly from the advances developed by NASA, with a separate space budget comparable to NASA’s; the militarized explorations of space today dwarf civilian explorations."

    "Under Obama, in 2016 Defense Secretary Ash Carter pushed for significant increases in the Pentagon’s space budget, bluntly argued that in the past, “space was seen as a sanctuary. New and emerging threats make clear that that’s not the case anymore [?] and we must be prepared for the possibility of a conflict that extends in space.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/08/10/militarizing-space-starship-troopers-same-as-it-ever-was/

  53. V. Susan Ferguson says:

    VSF: Great New Alert, Dane. Thank you! You are our North Star!  Some good news:   🙂

    SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX 5) — A San Francisco jury Friday ruled in favor of a former Benicia Unified School District groundskeeper who claimed the chemical glyphosate – contained in the popular herbicide “Roundup” – caused his cancer.
    The jury ordered that Roundup manufacturer Monsanto pay Dewayne “Lee” Johnson, who is suffering from terminal non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, nearly $290 million in damages.  The breakdown was $819,882 for loss of past earnings; $1,403,327 in future earnings; $4 million in past non-economic losses and $33 million in future non-economic losses.

    https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/08/10/monsanto-roundup-former-groundskeepers-cancer-290million/

    • Star Messenger says:

      Yes.  But Monsanto said they will appeal.  Evil knows no limits.

    • Bonnie Crawford says:

      That's definitely good news, but the icing on that cake would be if Roundup would cease to be manufactured!

    • Jeanette S says:

      Hi Ladies, I had listened to an interview of the lead attorney not only did he say there are 4000 more cases but the next one will be in Missouri, Monsanto's home state, this is important because their execs including dear Pam will be called to the stand. So to lie for the corporation or to be tortured by them for the rest of your days. It is hard to feel sorry for them, isn't it?

    • jack links says:

      We are under attack are political system has lost it.

       

  54. V. Susan Ferguson says:

    VSF:  Two reports on the use of red fire retardant, 2018 & 2012. It appears that the potential for toxic impacts & consequences have not lessened in spite of new rulings? Note they operate out of Lockheed planes!

    Why Fire Retardant Is Colored Bright Red
    July 2018
    The flame retardant is colored crimson red to make it visible—it also comes in “fugitive color,” which disappears, and in uncolored variants. One of the most commonly used brands of retardant, Phos-Chek, uses red iron oxide to dye its product, a mix of ammonia and nitrates that can keep trees and other flammable materials from combusting. When the red slurry pours out of planes and onto the ground, pilots can see where it’s landed so that they don’t cover the same area again.
    Aerial firefighting has become common over the past decades, and the Forest Service has been using such products for years. Though they can help contain fires and limit burn damage, retardants have their own impact. Washed into the water, these chemicals can pollute water and kill fish, and after a lawsuit and an environment impact analysis in 2007, the Forest Service created new rules that restricted retardant drops around streams and lakes.
    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/red-flame-retardant-yosemite-fire

    Debate over fire retardant toxicity rages in West
    Published June 22, 2012 / AP – Associated Press
    CHEYENNE, Wyo. –  Forest Service officials insist firefighting won't be hindered by new rules meant to prevent millions of gallons of retardant dropped onto scorched landscapes each year from poisoning streams and killing fish and plants.  The agency rules that resulted from a lawsuit require drops to come no closer than 300 feet from streams and lakes except when human safety is at risk, adding a new concern for the tanker plane pilots who barnstorm low over treacherous terrain to spread the fire retardant.
    The substance consisting primarily of ammonium phosphate also can't be dropped in areas with endangered or threatened plants. "It is an increasing workload, there's no doubt about that," said Dan Snyder, president of Missoula, Mont.-based Neptune Aviation Services, which operates eight Lockheed P2V planes.
    "It may reduce the speed at which they can affect the fire because they do need to take those few extra minutes to study the charts and plan on how they can put the retardant on the ground and still comply with the rules."   Still, the company, which operates almost half of the U.S. private fleet of large tanker planes, agrees for the most part that the new regulations won't set back firefighters.
    Basically a fertilizer, ammonium phosphate has been known to kill off fish, though documented cases of fish killed by fire retardant are relatively rare. One case came in 2009 when ammonia in retardant dropped on wildfires near Santa Barbara, Calif., killed 50 protected steelhead trout in the Santa Ynez River.  In 2002, a slurry bomber inadvertently dumped between 1,000 and 2,000 gallons of fire retardant on the Fall River about 25 miles south of Bend, Ore. The retardant immediately killed all of the river's fish, an estimated 21,000 mainly juvenile brown trout, redband trout and mountain whitefish over a six-mile stretch.  But the culprit in that case was sodium ferrocyanide, which became toxic to fish under certain environmental conditions and is longer used in fire retardant.
    "We found out the hard way there was a small amount of chemical in some of the products that did have this characteristic," said Cecilia Johnson, fire chemicals technical specialist at the agency's Missoula Technology and Development Center in Montana. The Fall River fish population began to recover after a couple years, said Steve Marks, a fish biologist for the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife.
    Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics in Eugene, Ore., filed the first of two lawsuits over the Forest Service's fire retardant policies in the aftermath of the Oregon spill.
    Since then, fire retardant manufacturers also have cut the ammonium in retardant by half over the last decade without sacrificing effectiveness, according to Johnson.  "It's as good or better," Johnson said.
    The group that brought about the changes by filing suit says the Forest Service rules aren't as big of an issue as whether fire retardant even works.  The agency has never proven in the field that fire retardant is effective, said Andy Stahl, executive director of Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics.  "Why use it if it's not effective? If it's not effective, I don't care if it's environmentally benign. It's a waste of money and firefighters' lives," Stahl said.  "The case for retardant use is not sufficiently strong to offset the environmental effects."
    Rubbish, say Forest Service officials, who cite decades of rigorous laboratory testing and relate the accounts of plenty of ground and aerial firefighters who insist that fire retardant not only works, it works well.  "When enough people in enough places say retardant helps, we have to believe they're not making it up," Johnson said.  The lab assesses not just the efficacy but the toxicity of fire retardant, which is blended into water and dumped from airplanes onto fire as a slurry mixture. …
    So who's right? The finer points of the debate get complicated. Fire retardant doesn't attempt to put out wildfires or even necessarily halt flames in their advance. Consisting primarily of ammonium phosphate — fertilizer, basically — fire retardant is formulated to slow down the combustion of trees, brush and grass. The idea is to give firefighters time to mount a ground attack. The ground forces clear away flammable material in a wide line around the edges of the fire. They hem in the flames and eventually a soaking rain falls or the fire just burns itself out.  Often, even a fully contained high Rockies wildfire will smolder, sputter and flare for weeks or months, into autumn and the first significant snows. The U.S. Forest Service spent $19 million on 23 million gallons of retardant last year, which was unusually busy for wildfires.  "We've observed streams for miles be sterilized of all their fish life. Tens of thousands of fish can be killed in one dump," Stahl said.
    Meanwhile, very few fish poisonings have been documented. Even Montana U.S. District Judge Donald Molloy, in siding with Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics in its second lawsuit over fire retardant, pointed out in his 2010 ruling that only 14 of 128,000 retardant drops over eight years killed protected fish or plants.
    … Stahl said the Forest Service hasn't proven with field studies that fire retardant helps. "We throw it on for the air show," Stahl said. There's a reason why fire retardant isn't tested in the field, said Stein.
    "The problem that I have with what Andy wants us to do, is out there in the wild, you have so many variables that are constantly changing. You've got slope, you've got aspect, you've got wind, you've got temperatures. It's hard to know what the result of the retardant is versus some of the other variables," he said. Anyway, he's seen fire retardant work in the field, such as when a DC10 tanker plane dumped thousands of gallons at a California fire a few years ago. "Five miles long, I drove that whole road where we dropped it. There were two little spots where it went into the retardant and stopped. And the rest of it just stopped at the retardant. So I know it's effective," Stein said.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/22/debate-over-fire-retardant-toxicity-rages-in-west.html

     

    • Paul Vonharnish says:

      From the article cited:  Why Fire Retardant Is Colored Bright Red
      July 2018

      "The flame retardant is colored crimson red to make it visible—it also comes in “fugitive color,” which disappears, and in uncolored variants. One of the most commonly used brands of retardant, Phos-Chek, uses red iron oxide to dye its product, a mix of ammonia and nitrates that can keep trees and other flammable materials from combusting. When the red slurry pours out of planes and onto the ground, pilots can see where it’s landed so that they don’t cover the same area again." [End quote]

      In addition to killing soil microbes – thus retarding regrowth of forest vegetation, (a proven fact) fire retardant chemicals have very little positive affect.  The actual or effective "retardant" is saturating the area with plain water.  The added chemicals are a profit driven venture, period.  But there's more. >>>>>>>>>> Excerpted from: Thermite – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Chemical reactions

      "The aluminium reduces the oxide of another metal, most commonly iron oxide, because aluminium is more reactive:

      Fe2O3 + 2 Al → 2 Fe + Al2O3

      The products are aluminium oxide, free elemental iron,[2] and a large amount of heat. The reactants are commonly powdered and mixed with a binder to keep the material solid and prevent separation. [End quote]

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite

    • Dennie Mehocich says:

      Well, now, if "They" hadn't felt the so-called "need" to poison everything by the first, "they" obviously wouldn't have the need to poison everything by the "cure–;" typical pharmaceutical "answer" to the problems we have allowed to be created, first and foremost by letting these juvenile delinquents in the power position into the controls, now ruling over us by Technology.  But that'll crash, too.  

    • Jeanette S says:

      thanks Paul, I am going to comment to on the fact that I went on a tour of our local fire house and mind you they were speaking flame retardants in furniture, linens, mattresses, clothing, it makes my hair stand on end including baby fleece sleepers, blankets etc. flame retardant is flame retardant and I have in my mind that all is basically the same materials. the firemen told us that it is ONLY a retardant not PREVENTITIVE that when it too reaches a certain temp it will combust. It starts out as toxic black smoke they cant see their hand in front of their face and when that hits a certain temp it all bursts into flame. the air is flame! the smoke is flame that has not combusted yet. …that is what we get for the expense the personal and environmental hazard. Isn't brainlessness and greed wonderful? I got a news item today that wild animals…their more exemplory livers finally gave out and now they are getting cancer too from anthropogenic chemicals. I am speechless. Noremburg trials…along those lines,

  55. Frank says:

    To the people that read this site who are be in a position to break this open: please make the press release, the announcement, the email, the twitter, that will lance this boil and get the healing started. What are a few more queasy days on Earth when you could make such an immortal impact? Please be the one.

    • Paul Vonharnish says:

      Hello Frank:  Damn straight!

      This is a spectacularly written article by Kristine MattisPLEASE take the time to read it carefully, and take note of the many imbedded links to supportive information.  I don't do Facebook, but am hoping some reader (or readers) of Geoengineering Watch will contact Ms. Mattis to encourage her interest in the anti-geoengineering movement.  We need her kind of solid journalism…

      Dying of Consumption While Guzzling Snake Oil: a Realist’s Perspective on the Environmental Crisis     August 10, 2018

      by Kristine Mattis

      https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/08/10/dying-of-consumption-while-guzzling-snake-oil-a-realists-perspective-on-the-environmental-crisis/

    • Laura Sutton says:

      Yes  Yes  YES  This is so true

    • Dennie Mehocich says:

      We now have to beg the Banking-Corporate-Industrial Luciferian Angels and their little pet lap-dog paid thugs, a.k.a. the Military, and plead with them for the right of continued life on Earth….these classes of stooopid IDIOTS can't see themselves as a part of life and actually believe they are somehow above it all– like somehow their goddamned money is going to save them?  Yeah.. r-i-i-i-i-i-g-h-t…… A$$holes!

  56. Gert says:

    Thanks very much for the great information. Everyone has to know what we're facing now.

  57. linda donahue says:

    What happened in Redding Ca. and in other areas, are a reflection, it seems of a larger picture involving herding techniques akin to some of the middle eastern countries that we intentionally physically dismantled.   Attack where the judges, teachers,professionals live the most.   Nothing dismantles an area more than that, thrusts the common thread of daily living into chaos the most.   Please  enlarge your picture of conflict.   Is this not credible?   LOVE

    • Star Messenger says:

      When the Redding Police Chief was asked if he knew why the Carr Fire was so intense he replied:  "I don't know."  That statement got my attention.

      Dane, if the Redding Police Chief doesn't know that the aerosols being sprayed in the atmosphere are a major factor in the Carr Fire's intensity then "the word" is not getting out.  From what you've said, Dane, Redding is your hometown.  So, why doesn't the Redding Police Chief know…?

    • Dane Wigington says:

      Hello, Star messenger, in answer to your question, he knows.

  58. Im going to change my name domain to forward to this site 

    It doesnt matter what I do Its already toast after years of being enlightened.  

  59. Barbara Fox says:

    Dane, thank you for the passion, the urgency, and the FACTS about our earth's dire situation.  I see exactly what you're talking about happen before my own eyes.  I live in Iowa and we have seen not only high-altitude aerial spraying like crazy this summer, but crop dusting like never before!  We live in an area surrounding by beautiful hills and timber on three sides, but that doesn't stop the drift of pesticides / fungicides from reaching our property.  I feel for everyone, the wildlife, the vegetation and trees that are being burned to death from the wildfires.  I SO wish I could see an end to this destruction and insanity;  I feel I'm surrounded by the sleeping majority or those who refuse to even look at the unfolding reality around them.  I will continue to talk, to write, to present the issues to those who will listen.

  60. Frank says:

    When that break-in comes on the TV, who will it be?

    Will it be the revolutionary we all hope for, some rebel general with enough of a following to take control?….

    Or will it be the same old power structure with the final crackdown… the calm voice in the terrible panic that orders us to our slaughter?

    How could anyone worry about their pension, their paycheck at this late hour? As censorship closes in around the media, maybe these weak dogs that have held us captive, the ones who knew and did nothing will not even have a chance to beg for their forgiveness as the crackdown comes… and nobody is heard from.

    The final script is probably written and will probably be read, except for the one-in-a-million soul who could still speak out now with nothing is to gain but his own, individual salvation.

  61. Abigail says:

    Dane, I[m sorry, but your information is being interrupted by some person or company. I have tried several times to get this and it tells me my information can not be accepted. It is the same email I always use. Taking this to Russ Tanner's page. Thank you, Abigail (I will try my google account this time.)

    • Paul Vonharnish says:

      Hello Abigail and other readers experiencing browser blocking:  I highly recommend clearing your Internet Explorer history and cookies prior to coming to this site.  I clear my browser often, like every 10 web pages or so… I view approximately 50 web sites per day, use absolutely no anti-virus bullshit; never have, and never will…

      The web blocking issue is very much related to back door software and tracking programs designed into ALL Microsoft Windows platforms since the introduction of Windows 8.  Google, Facebook, and other NSA "services" are in on the game…

      In short: The blocking issue is not caused by server problems at Geoengineering Watch.  Dane (obviously) has extremely well built server and software systems in place.

      Though I presently don't have an active web page, I set up a WordPress account years ago.  http://wordpress.com  My WordPress status allows me to post on many different web sites without having to screw around with various Google traps and log in crapola.  Hope you find this information helpful.

    • GretchenThomas says:

      The Opera browser in private mode has free Virtual Private Network (VPN,) all you have to do is turn it on. When browsing in private mode history and cookies are automatically deleted at the end of session. https://www.opera.com

  62. Abigail says:

    Dane, having problems getting and sharing some of your messages with OrbisVitae.org , Russ Tanner. Thank you for all you do. This is a critical matter. The United States and Canada seem to think this is some kind of joke. JUST WAIT, YOU WILL SEE, IF YOU DO NOT GET INVOLVED in stopping this man-made weather manipulation. Geoengineering is totally destroying planet EARTH. 

  63. Karen says:

    On the spray days I wear a carbon mask when I walk my dog around the neighborhood and out running errands.  People ask me if I'm OK and I say "I just don't want to breathe in all these particles and chemicals being sprayed."  It sparks conversation but mostly eyes glaze over.

    • Joy says:

      Galze over is a good way to put it, most people cannot handle it though.  I don't know how we handle it, to tell the truth.  But we do.  so we have to keep spreading the trug=th until we reach critical mass.  I believe it WILL happen.  the "rulers" are desperate now to push their agenda.  So it should be easier to wake up more people to these horrific acts.

    • Star Messenger says:

      Even on "clear" days, there are nanosized particles n the air.  The days of clear, deep blue skies are over.  Cloudless skies are really a misnomer.  I vaguely remember deep blue skies.  But that was in the 1950s.  Back then you could sit in the Sun and not have to worry about getting skin cancer – unless you did that on a daily basis for hours on end.  But today if you did that for even an hour it would be literally painful.  Reason?  More damaging ultraviolet rays are getting through to the lower atmospheres.  I avoid the Sun as much as possible because of what I just stated.

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